Stability Guide v1.12

[Leoreth]

That's definitely a mistake, but I don't know if its just in the guide or also in the code. Will check when I'm at my computer again.

 

[Leoreth]

Okay, I checked the code. It's supposed to say "any Organization civic except Egalitarianism or Totalitarianism", I'll correct the guide.

 

[Leoreth]

Added a section on the new military stability rules.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

Barbarbian Losses Stability

You receive a -1 stability penalty for every battle you use against a barbarian unit. This penalty also decays over time.

You mean "lose" right? Because if we got a -1 stability penalty each time we engaged Barb units, that would be the end of a ton of civs.

 

[Leoreth]

It never said anything else

 

[Leoreth]

Amended the economic growth stability section to reflect recent changes:

Economic Growth

[...]

Some of your civics influence your economic growth stability:
- you receive extra points during economic growth when running Free Market
- you receive no penalties during economic stagnation when running Environmentalism
- you receive less penalties during economic decline when running Public Welfare

 

[Leoreth]

Added another post describing the mechanics of stability checks and the new types of crises.

 

[BenZL43]

never mind. I move that into a more suitable thread.

 

[Tigranes]

Severe territorial crisis: "Collapse to core": if you control more than two ahistorical cities, all ahistorical cities will secede. Otherwise, all non-core cities will secede.

Does this mean that one can exploit and save his collapsing historical empire by acquiring 2 ahistorical cities and loosing only those 2 few turns later?

 

[Leoreth]

Theoretically yes. I'm still looking for better criteria here.

 

[citis]

How about this:
Let h be the number of historical cities and f the number of non historical cities. If f>=h then all foreign cities seced. If f<h then h cities secede, all the foreign and h-f historical.

 

[Leoreth]

How about this:
Let h be the number of historical cities and f the number of non historical cities. If f>=h then all foreign cities seced. If f<h then h cities secede, all the foreign and h-f historical.

That sounds plausible.

 

[mrrandomplayer]

How about this:
Let h be the number of historical cities and f the number of non historical cities. If f>=h then all foreign cities seced. If f<h then h cities secede, all the foreign and h-f historical.

That seems quite punishing.

 

[Leoreth]

It is a severe crisis. The effect is supposed reduce a civilization to its core, while keeping colonial empires intact if they're destabilized from overexpanding into foreign territory.

 

[baseballpie]

CRISES
Negative outcomes on solid or unstable don't trigger a crisis.

Is this correct, or should it be stable instead?

 

[Leoreth]

It should be, will be corrected. Thanks.

 

[Royal Tenenbaum]

There is a negative stability impact on bad relations. What about a positive for good relations? I'm sorry if you actually -did- add that, but I'm still running the SVN from April.

 

[Leoreth]

The bad relations penalty has been removed.

 

[Royal Tenenbaum]

Hmm... can I throw in my opinion that they shouldn't? . Bad relations usually make people ashamed to be in their country and lead to dissidence.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

It was ridiculous when all OBs were constantly being cancelled just because certain civs were arbitrarily aligned against you in the first place.
I don't see any good reason to add them back in.