SW3 - we are NINJA

[RowAndLive]

UP, and looking forward to removing mao a second time.

I know how to solve single large cities with lots of spears -- "Soylent green. It's people!"

 

[ÆnigmÆffect]

I don't know the science advances off the top of my head, but I wonder if gunning for Magnetism would be better, due to building ship? (Or are we super far away from Magnetism?)

Then again, with 2 movement samurai, moving everything to Hangchow shouldn't be too bad, and sticking with galley.

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

Magnetism is pretty far away still. We're about a quarter of the way through the Middle Ages, and Magnetism is at the end. The longer we wait, the more cities India will have, too.

I think we can get a good start, maybe finish off the top island, if we attack now. Maybe we can then make peace, work our way to Magnetism (which we'll be closer too), and then attack the mainland?

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

cash rush as many galleys as we need (say 10), sail them to the crossing point. build a city on the northern island for a base...nevermind, this is too complicated to explain. I'll try to get a picture up later tonight

 

[Tubby Rower]

cash rush as many galleys as we need (say 10), sail them to the crossing point. build a city on the northern island for a base...nevermind, this is too complicated to explain. I'll try to get a picture up later tonight

You crack me up!!!

 

[RowAndLive]

Magnetism would be the 6th tech from present - too far away. I'm 1/2 done, and getting galleys in the queue, looking for rush opportunities, and moving troops. Should be able to rebuild Hangchow in the next 1-2 turns. As far as I can tell, we are about 6-1 behind in the galley race, only having 2.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

6-1 behind in the galley race, only having 2

Cash rush some on the east coast?

If i've done the counting thingy correctly, we can fill up "our" continent and not have to worry about domination. Really will try to get a strategic plan up soon.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Place cities as indicated. Raze as indicated. use 2-3 galleys to shuttle troops between the two northern cities. Land move the troops between the northern city and the southern after roading.

Raze as indicated. Build one city in the north (rax first then walls). use 2-3 galleys to shuttle troops between the land masses. after the razing is done, go for delhi. keep building settlers and military and send them north asap. Hope this is over before mag.

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

If i've done the counting thingy correctly, we can fill up "our" continent and not have to worry about domination. Really will try to get a strategic plan up soon.

We don't have to worry about hitting domination. SW checked only Conquest and Space Race as VCs (maybe Histograph too...), so even if we get 66% land and pop, we won't win (or should I say, lose). Check the Victory Screen.

The war plan looks good, though, AK.

 

[RowAndLive]

5 techs to go before Magnetism & galleons – can’t wait.

850 – 0

IBT: Indian spear dies @ Hangchow, promoting Chin archer. Lands another spear & archer. Chin galley shows near Bangalore + many Indian galleys.
Suo worker > worker, Erdenet settler > settler, Sado worker > pike

860 – 1
@Hangchow, Ancient Glory -3 killing 2 archers, -1 kills Mao & China disappears. Spread units to limit Indian movement.
3/4 MI kills BH & grabs 25g.

IBT: Satsuma samurai > samurai, Nara worker > samurai, Izumi worker > worker, New Osaka worker > LB

870 – 2
movement

IBT: Tokyo samurai > samurai, Bizen treb > musket, Khabarovsk worker > settler, Shimonseki settler > worker, New Satsuma worker > worker

880 – 3
Change Nagoya from Sam in 3 to Pentagon in 31.
Change research to 80%, Chemistry in 6 @ -157gpt
Change Fukushima from settler to worker in 3.
Change Yokohama to court, and rush for 240g.
Found New Izumi in SE > spear.
Found New Omi in NE > wealth.

IBT: Echigo treb > worker, Izumo settler > samurai, Yokohama court > market in 20, New Kagoshima worker > worker

890 – 4
movement

IBT: Zeus gives AC.
New Sapporo worker > worker, Toyama settler > worker, Sapporo sam > sam

900 – 5
Change Tokyo to galley, rush for 56g.
Rush galley in Edo for 96g.
Change Nara to galley & rush for 52g.
Change Yokohama to galley in 5.
India has one city that’s not showing on the mini-map, but map trades are a long way off.
Start suicide run in SW.

IBT: New Ise worker > worker, Tokyo galley > galley, New Hakodate worker > worker, Rostov samurai > samurai, Nara galley > galley, Fukushima worker > settler, Matsuyama samurai > market, Edo galley > galley

910 – 6
extend suicide run, but no land…

IBT: Fukushima worker > worker, Shimonseki worker > worker
Delhi completes knights templar – crusaders @ 5/3/1.

920 – 7
New Echigo founded in far E > worker.

IBT: New Bizen worker > worker, Nagasaki samurai > samurai
Suicide galley sinks.

930 – 8

IBT: War Elephant shows at Chittagong (our island, W point)
Chemistry > metallurgy
Osaka samurai > samurai, Echizen worker > worker, Satsuma samurai > samurai, Suo worker > worker, Vladivostok market > MDI, Hakodate settler > MDI
India begins Sistine.

940 – 9
Change research to 0%, Metallurgy in 50, +155gpt / 418g.
Leo’s in 6, Pentagon in 22.
Investigate Kolhapur > Leo’s in 37, +9spt, 2+4+0 pop, 2 spears, 3 incense, 3 spices, no resources, no ivory either?
Rush galley in Nara. Rush galley in Edo.

IBT: Ancient Cav.
Tokyo galley > galley, Nara galley > galley, Yokohama galley > galley, Edo galley > galley

950 – 10
5 settlers, 5 armies, 9 galleys, 21 samurai, 22 MDI
About half are ready to move. Galleys on West coast.

 

[RowAndLive]

and the save.

 

[Tubby Rower]

So I guess it's up to me now. Is there a general (or specific) gameplan? Or just go kill everyone. I saw A-K's dotmap... What tech are we going for just Magnetism? or do we want to get MT since we will have Leo's?

I should be able to play tomorrow.

 

[ÆnigmÆffect]

We may want to switch some of those worker cities to samurai cities (esp. Izumo. IIRC, that's a decent production city that would be better served as unit production. It may need a barracks.)

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

hack the weffalumps or kill the big UU have fun

 

[soul_warrior]

enjoy, tubby.
and dont take 5 hours for this one too, i might feel im overworking you....
no real advice now,as im totally pissed right now, and not really coherent, am i?

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

im totally pissed right now

does this mean you're angry or knackered?

 

[Tubby Rower]

does this mean you're angry or knackered?

The fact that he wasn't too coherent I'm guessing the latter....

Anyway no turn log, just a picture and a save. I was confused as to why we hadn't declared on India before my turn started. So I played about 5-6 turns with out declaring. I found the "extra" Indian city....it was NW of our capital. ...Moved a bunch of troops there. India landed a settler in the west and I decided that was just not right....so preserving our rep I removed any troops out of his territory and

Well I took a couple of slaves out in the west and got a leader. I only loaded 1 samari into it at first to get it into a galley. Took the city near our capital in the east. Ghandi landed a templar and settler and got two more slaves.

Sent the partially filled army accross the Straight Of Victory and quickly took the northern town. Moved the army down and sent more troops across the straight. There are a bunch of galleys in the east that could attempt the jump but I didn't want to loose a bunch of samari...

I also had been rushing a LOT of settlers. I think that I founded at least 10 cities and 4-5 settlers are in transit... Pushing the mop around wasn't too thrilling so I played a few extra turns to compensate.
Save from 1090AD

 

[RowAndLive]

As you can see, Dacca was founded on the saltpeter. That is why I had the units there interdicting any landings. Jumbos are bad enough without muskets on defense.

 

[Tubby Rower]

Well since we can't get those armies across the water until we get bigger ships, they'll do fine in killing the guards and getting slaves out of the settlers.

Dacca was promptly destroyed. I don't know if I mentioned that but I welcome landings. They only land 2 units at a time. Until the AI gets smarter and uses more than one boat at a time. This will reduce the force that Ghandi has on his mainland and will allow an easier time in rolling him over

 

[Tubby Rower]

I didn't follow A-K's map mainly because I forgot about it. Also we didn't have the settlers in place to do it. So I just kept those cities.The flip risk wasn't high at the time. We'll see as things progress.