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Team Game #2 - OCC Conquest only

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Fippy, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. drewisfat

    drewisfat Chieftain

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    Oh...... I assumed you had dragons cuz I see all the ruined cities. IDK how it's possible to win an occ on deity without dragons.
     
  2. BornInCantaloup

    BornInCantaloup A Shadow for the Warrior

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    I think Assembly line is much more important. Infantries promoted to March are an incredible asset.

    You need to choose a direction and start sweeping the map. I you keep playing it like "crowd control", you won't get there without nukes.
     
  3. Fippy

    Fippy Micro Junkie Queen

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    Well it's not like we were slacking, while finishing Hatshy ;)
    She was Ragnar with plenty units.

    I would make an argument for Machine Guns also being great, with strong defense in our stacks we can move our super cannons close to cities easier.
    AL had the problem of needing more techs before, obsoleting our citadel too while RR was available instantly.

    Actually i was playing around with the thought of letting Genghis suicide on Madrid and ignoring his stack, while moving our offensive forces out to raze cities.
    I cannot see him doing much damage against fortified Rifles in a hill city, with Cuirs & old stuff.
    We can flank his siege out with some Cavs too.
     
  4. BornInCantaloup

    BornInCantaloup A Shadow for the Warrior

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    Fair points about Cannons and the Citadel... Didn't think about that. Machine guns are obv great defence :) Collateral immunity and gunpowder bonus...
    The infantry isn't a counter-unit, though, it's more of a zerg type.
     
  5. Fippy

    Fippy Micro Junkie Queen

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    Time to continue, sadly without Pangaea for now.
    I used my plan of letting Genghis "siege" Madrid with his 2 Trebs, will take him forever and his stack stands there :)
    First some pics:
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    Soo i also decided cancelling Iron now, hopefully we have enuf cannons moving west.
    We can build c4 Cavs for now, really nice and they can pass his stack easily and help with the attack.
    Also did 1t Observatory (trade for Astro made with Stalin), i think we want those beakers long term.

    Our moving units are avoiding the range of his Cuirs (2 tiles).
    3 Airships in Portland, attacking Rifles in Madrid (who heal anyways lol), better than our moving stack imo.
    We could have attacked that city, but it's on a hill and i prefer using Brennus territory so we can finally make quicker progress at his core cities.

    Surey declared on Stalin, could get ugly..will have to monitor if we should / can buy him off.
    What else, hmm..cannot think of much, other than i plan equipping Madrid with ~2 MGs too when RR finishes.
    We have to succeed in really damaging Genghis core now, avoiding distractions.
     

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  6. Fippy

    Fippy Micro Junkie Queen

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    Next pics gallery ~~
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    So this is all very exciting, even if we fail to win! :)
    Will Madrid hold? Will our highly promoted units destroy the evil Mongolian Headquarters?
    Who will Brennus attack, and will Stalin hold?
     

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    Fippy Micro Junkie Queen

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    Couple more, San Francisco falls..
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    Pause, feel free to save looky / make suggestions :)
     

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  8. krikav

    krikav Theorycrafter

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    Wow! Nice way to tie up his SOD. Don't think I could ever have the nerves to do something like that. :)
     
  9. rah

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    Yeah, especially in OCC. One reason why I like RR, so I can move my stacks a bit quicker to respond to this type of thing.
    This game has inspired me to try another OCC domination game. When I used to do it I always turned off vassals but will try one with it on.
    Thanks guys.
     
  10. Fippy

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    I have / had hopes for Pangaea re-appearing,
    so taking longer breaks. Latest continue date will be early next week thou.
     
  11. drewisfat

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    I am completely ignorant of OCC so this is fascinating. I've thought you were doomed since turn 1 but here you are cutting into the score leader taking minimal losses. I still have no idea how a victory is impossible but I'm excited. Play more! Play more! Pangaea play more! Fippy play more! What about earliest continue date? What if earliest continue date was right now :please::w00t:
     
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  12. Fippy

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    Lots to report in this story, and taking care of all battles ofc so it's slow :)
    But here we go for a couple more, i present "The Longest Night" of Madrid..
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    ..well okay, maybe it was not that dangerous ;) We lost no units here, not even Dothraki.
    MGs against undead walls would have been efficient in Westeros as well.

    Meanwhile, Stalin capitulated to Sury. I guess this was never really avoidable, and rather unimportant anyways with his 4 cities.

    Washington, former headquarters of Genghis Kahn (barbaric horde..!), was razed under the loss of 1 cannon.
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    Encouraged by their progress, spanish armies split off towards other targets
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    ..some protected by mighty MGs, hopefully this stack can grow :)
    And we even repaired our cow pastures again, yay.
    Evil Drakelings (airships) in Portland.

    Think i will have time for more tomorrow, already played a gotm today so Civ zzzZZzzz for now.
    Oh i forgot, the very interesting diplo:
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    Lots of hatred, friendly between Genghis & Sury only which we can "remove" hopefully ;)
     

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  13. Fippy

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    I will have a longer story & many more pics tomorrow,
    for now celebrate the capitulation of once mighty Genghis :)
    Spoiler :
     

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  14. Izuul

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    Nice. I need to catch up on this game thread.
     
  15. Fippy

    Fippy Micro Junkie Queen

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    Okay, recap from yesterday's play.
    I started with looking at cannon # and realized we need more.
    Can we get Iron back from Sury?
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    Yup we can, with wealth & 100% gold slider i managed to squeeze out +45gpt.
    He wanted that exact amount, i have no idea if it's coincidence or "generosity".
    Also added a tech screenie, nothing of interest there. SM would obsolete Glib, not good yet, and Democracy adds nothing.
    + a pic of why we need more cannons, 21% survival only after full bombardment.

    As our main stack arrives at New York, we see defenses there. Not bad, some good promos..without our CR3 super cannons this would hurt.
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    ..but we lose nothing here, however this luck would not always hold up later :) I remember losing 2 Cavs at ~96% and several cannons (those expected).
    Other pic shows how i split armies and move on several cities.

    Next are pics of sneaking on "southern" cities, with an undefeatable forest MG protecting cannon movement,
    progress NW, a new general meeting with our old Axe for another super medic, and satellite view with armies.
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    Pics limit reached, part 2 soon.
     

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    Progress south, some more battle logs, and a nasty Privateer plundering our fish pff..but Brennus had one for trade.
    I also tried getting new peace deals with Sury & Brennus by begging 1g, to avoid peace vassaling - worked.
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    At Chicago cannon odds were bad, hill city..i waited for 1t here and tried other cities first (hoping for capitulation without Chicago).
    LA was much easier, but not enuf
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    ..so i had to raze Chicago as well, after which he gave up.
    Genghis has 2 cities left now, hopefully he uses the Settler in New Orleans :)
    Nongoma has Iron & most important Coal, we should give him Steam Power and grab it for RR.
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    Lots of other decisions too, who to attack next? Plundering with healthy Cavs meanwhile? (should be an obvious move thou, those towns & villages give lots of gold).
    Genghis has Physics, which opens up Artillery..good time to abandon Glib and take SM? Or maybe combustion for destroyers first?

    Remaining army:
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    19 cannons, 14 Rifles (soon Infs), 28 Cavs, 3 MGs. Which still makes us only 4th in soldiers :)
     

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    If somebody feels like checking the situation, all thoughts are very much welcome ~~
    This game is far from over.
     

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    Well Catherine is weak without Replaceable Parts. She looks like a good target with 3 cities you can attack on turn 1 of a war.
    You'd get enough war success for capitulation if you can hold against her stack.
    Upgrade a few dudes to infantry idk :smoke:
     
  19. Fippy

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    Yep Cathy would be easy, but we basically clear territory for Brennus this way.
    (who should be the strongest AI currently)

    Makes this game so much fun, would we gain much by rolling over Cathy?
    I actually lean towards Sury, despite friendly. He also has no Rifling yet, and like Genghis his cities are west (while Brennus is far east).
     
  20. Izuul

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    It is tough to finish this kind of game off when you can only claim a portion of the land you conquer and can only do that with vassals.

    It would be very easy to unintentionally make an AI really strong.
     

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