Term 3 - Senate

[Bootstoots]

The Third Session of Fanatica's Senate is hereby called to order!

Senatorial discussion regarding slider settings, cash requests, and perhaps the general goings on in the provinces is to be discussed here. Also, all cash requests should be made in this thread for prompt Senatorial action, and all Senate votes will take place here.

Current Senate:

Bootstoots - Vice President and President of the Senate

CivGeneral - Governor of Berry Province
tao - Governor of Audiac Province
TerminalMan90 - Governor At-Large

Results of Term 3 Senate votes:
Term 3 Senate Vote 1 Passed, 3-0-0
Term 3 Senate Vote 2 Invalid, 1-0-0 (not polled for long enough)

 

[Bootstoots]

I'll start off with discussion about slider settings.

I propose that we keep the slider the same 90% science, 10% tax setting, as that will get us The Republic within 6 turns, whereas dropping the science slider will cause it to take more turns and raising it to 100% has no effect. I also propose that we allow for a temporary 10% lux setting if absolutely necessary to keep cities from rioting, and that we direct that upon reaching 3 turns remaining on Republic that the DP check to see if the slider can be lowered without increasing the number of turns necessary to research The Republic, and that the DP repeat this action for 1 and 2 turns remaining. The slider would then be reset to 90% science immediately upon the completion of research on The Republic.

How does this sound? Discuss, and I plan on starting a vote within around 48 hours. Also, if any leader has any cash requests, be sure to post here about them ASAP.

 

[tao]

I want to propose that we run 10% lux for 1 turn. This will cost us 1 gold. But if we do this, we can work another floodplain in Vandelay without riot and get growth in 1 turn to coincide with the settler production. Thus after building the settler Vandelay will be at size 5 instead of 4. The gold spent will immediately be earned by the additional citizen. We loose nothing but gain. After the settler is built, we can run 0% lux again.

I think we have to re-assess slider settings after we revolt to republic.

 

[Bootstoots]

I think that's a good idea, tao. We will, of course, have to re-assess slider settings after the revolt to republic.

 

[Bootstoots]

Any further discussion or cash requests? Polling will start tomorrow.

 

[TerminalMan90]

TerminalMan Arrives back at the Senate. As he passes his old office, he notices that Boots has already taken residence.

Further down the hall, he comes to his new abode, drops some scrolls into his 'out' slot and settles in to discharge some of his At-Large duties.

Picking up one of the scrolls in the 'in' slot, he is somewhat surprised and pleased to see that VP Boot's proposal before the senate bears a striking resemblence to his own proposals from the last term.

In his day, however, the scroll paper was a bit fancier, the chosen font was somewhat more posh. This proposal, he muses, is much less formal.

Ah well. Change is a good thing.

Welcome to the office of VP Boots!

 

[Bootstoots]

Thanks for the welcome TM90.

Here are the proposals for the first Senate vote of this term. Please vote Yes, No, or Abstain on each item separately. Voting closes at 20:00 EST tomorrow (01:00 GMT on 4 March), which is one hour before the turnchat, or after all votes have been cast, whichever comes first.

Item 1:
The slider will be kept at 90% science for the next few turns. When there are three turns remaining on Republic, the DP will check the slider and lower it if we can do so without increasing the number of turns that it would take to research it. This is to be repeated when there are two and one turn left to research Republic. Once Republic is researched, we will revert to 90% science funding. Additionally, the lux slider is to be set at 10% until Turn 1, so that a citizen in Vandelay can work another flood plain tile without riot, generating a settler in one turn. The slider is to revert to 0% lux after Turn 1, and may be raised or kept at 10% only if absolutely necessary to avoid riot.

Item 2:
A maximum of 200 gold may be used for unit upgrades and anything else that is absolutely necessary.


Also, all cash requests must be in by 20:00 EST (01:00 GMT) today to be voted on. If anybody has a cash request, be sure to post it ASAP. All cash requests are to be voted on separately.

 

[tao]

Item 1: yes
Item 2: yes

 

[TerminalMan90]

Item 1: yes
Item 2: yes (I think).

As worded, item 2 could be taken to mean 'a maximum of 200 gp may be used for... anything ... that is absolutely necessary'. That is a pretty broad scope and highly subject to the DP's inderpretation.

For the next cash request, I would ask that you tighten up your wording and make your intent clearer.

 

[GenMarshall]

Item 1: Yes
Item 2: Yes

 

[Bootstoots]

Items 1 and 2 have passed with the result of 3-0-0. No cash requests will be approved after this point.

TM90, I will make the wording of Item 2 (or some variant) more clear next time around.

 

[zorven]

I am glad to see the Senate off to a strong start! Keep up the good work.

 

[Bootstoots]

When is the TCIT going up, BTW? Or is it there and I didn't see it?

 

[zorven]

Originally posted by Bootstoots
When is the TCIT going up, BTW? Or is it there and I didn't see it?

It is there now.

 

[TerminalMan90]

I would like to inform the Senate and all who vist these halls that in RL I have been downsized. The small BioTech company I work for has been struggling since the summer before 9/11. I survived the first round of cuts, but was not so lucky this time. My involvement with the DG may be a bit less, but I will try to get my Senate votes in on time. If I get a province, it may prove too much for me and I will have to resign my position.

Thank you for your consideration.

 

[Sarevok]

Senators,

I will now be requesting funds for our war against Babylon that has started. The amount of funds is at this point unknown, but I suspect it will be much. I will try to keep it below 100 gold, but it seems inevitable that it will be above that. This money is to be spent on upgrading units and if we go republic during the war, to rush units. Specific funds will be asked for later, but this is to inform you that there will be fund requests in the near future.

- Sarevok
Minister of Defense

 

[tao]

I see 5 warrior as upgradeable to swords. 5x40g=200g. I would be willing to approve that.

 

[Furiey]

Senators,

In this time of war, demands on our coffers are many - our Citizens may want us to form alliances with other nations to aid us in our war efforts. The deals involved in forming these alliances are complex and involve discussions with Trade and Technology. With only 162 gold in our vaults we are unable to simply buy these alliances. Either T&T or myself will inform you of our requirements as soon as we know ourselves!

edit: sorry to hear that TM90

 

[zorven]

Originally posted by TerminalMan90
I would like to inform the Senate and all who vist these halls that in RL I have been downsized. The small BioTech company I work for has been struggling since the summer before 9/11. I survived the first round of cuts, but was not so lucky this time. My involvement with the DG may be a bit less, but I will try to get my Senate votes in on time. If I get a province, it may prove too much for me and I will have to resign my position.

Thank you for your consideration.

I am sorry to hear the news. I know how difficult it can be having been through the same thing 2 times in the last 3 years. I wish you the best of luck in you search for a job.

BTW, shouldn't you now have more time for the forums

 

[Bootstoots]

I'm sorry for not holding this vote sooner. Anyway, here it is:

Item 1: We keep the slider as low as possible (without increasing turns on research) until we get Republic. After that, we return to 90% science and 10% taxes for the duration of the chat.

Item 2: 200 gold can be allocated for unit upgrades.

Item 3: We approve any gold expenditure necessary for alliances with other civs aganst Babylon.