MobBoss
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Welcome back Curt! Oh...and btw, could you provide me some examples of those christian extremist terrorists here in the USA? Thanks!
Terror Attack Thwarted in USA....
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Welcome back Curt! Oh...and btw, could you provide me some examples of those christian extremist terrorists here in the USA? Thanks!
MobBoss
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Buying binoculars and cameras to survey target: $500.
Buying weapons to attack a military facility: $5000.
Having to spend money on a lifetime supply of KY since you got caught and are going to prison: Priceless.
Yeah...thats badass allright....or sore ass, or something along those lines....
skadistic
Caomhanach
I don't know they were in NJ. Its probaly safer then storming Camdon or Trenton
boarder
King
Good news, however one has to wonder if these people are just plain idiots....
Sources have told NewsChannel 4's Brian Thompson that the suspects tried to have a training videotape converted to DVD at a store in Cherry Hill, N.J., but the store owner alerted authorities.
I would have thought a cunning terrorist would be a bit more onto it then to get caught like that.
Sources have told NewsChannel 4's Brian Thompson that the suspects tried to have a training videotape converted to DVD at a store in Cherry Hill, N.J., but the store owner alerted authorities.
I would have thought a cunning terrorist would be a bit more onto it then to get caught like that.
CurtSibling
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I said 'extremist', not 'terrorist.'
A big difference between those two words.
What about the people who operated places like Camp Davidian, and Elohim City?
Not to mention what we can assume are the many militia groups of the USA.
All have the potential to cause mayhem - Like Tim McVeigh did.
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CurtSibling
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Didn't cost the jihads too much to acquire the tools that killed 3000+ innocents in NYC either.
We should never take a light tone with that kind of thing, MB.
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Che Guava
The Juicy Revolutionary
Sounds a lot like that tool who tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb but couldn't get the match to light. I guess it's good for the delusional now that anyone with a1/2-assed plan to attack america or americans can now be deemed the impressive title of 'terrorist' and get national attention.
Don't get me wrong, I'm quite glad that these guys were stopped, but I wouldn't exactly call it a 'close call' either...
Indeed. Though this might rank up there on the stupid git scale with the guys intending to deconstruct the Brooklyn Bridge, so I'm not sure how much credit the FBI gets...
Not only that, but "Investigators said the group discussed targeting numerous locations -- such as Dover Air base, Fort Monmouth, a Coast Guard building in Philadelphia and the Philadelphia Federal building -- before deciding on Fort Dix as their intended target. Fort Dix is run in part by the Army and is a reserve-training center, but active units take part in training, some of which focuses on counter-terrorism."
Terrorists tend to hit weakly defended targets, these guys were going after one of the harder targets (albeit unsuspecting) in the United States.
Did we use military force or NSA warrentless spying to catch these guys or was it good old fashioned law enforcement?
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So, so you say that bombing Saddam's military was an act of terrorism and that almost every post-ww2 war US has waged, have been campaigns of terrorism?
Or you mean, with the typical hypocrisy, that when they attack it's terrorism, not when US does it--- oh, no, United States is by definition immune to allegations of terrorism, right?
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Apparently not all 'jihadists' are cunning. I don't think 'terrorist' is an ideal term on these topics seeing that it confuses the moral equivalence adherents here. To me these jihadists are terrorist, to nonconformist they are a bunch of cool dudes.
PrincepsAmerica
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1. Yes these guys would more accurately be called partisans or guerrillas.
2. Yes they seemed quite serious about it.
3. Yes it makes no sense that they would decide to attack one of the most protected places in America. Though we should probably be thankful they were dumb/brave like that, otherwise they could have just started spraying gunfire on a crowded street and done a lot worse before getting caught.
4. Yes it is great that we caught them and pretty much shows that there are still people out there planning violence against us, however incompetent and random they might be.
Thats pretty much it
2. Yes they seemed quite serious about it.
3. Yes it makes no sense that they would decide to attack one of the most protected places in America. Though we should probably be thankful they were dumb/brave like that, otherwise they could have just started spraying gunfire on a crowded street and done a lot worse before getting caught.
4. Yes it is great that we caught them and pretty much shows that there are still people out there planning violence against us, however incompetent and random they might be.
Thats pretty much it
Apparently the latter, if I read it right - their attempt to have a training tape converted from VHS to DVD spooked the store owner (Staples or Kinkos or whatever) and he "contacted the authorities" and the FBI infiltrated the group with a new volunteer.
Their target was actually irrelevant in terms of catching them, as they never actually deployed for attack.
Bugfatty300
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And of course the weapons were "aquiered" illegaly.
So much for the fodder for gun-control legislation disguised as anti-terrorim legislation.
So much for the fodder for gun-control legislation disguised as anti-terrorim legislation.
nonconformist
Miserable
Awww, come on, you have to admit six guys storming an army base is badass. It's something out of a Jerry Bruckheimer film.
Fugitive Sisyphus
Escape Artist
I have said for a long time that if 'terrorists' attack military targets that they are not terrorists. Stupid, misguided, crazy, but not terrorists.
But it is good that they were caught and they should be locked up. The American citizen should be charged with treason.
But it is good that they were caught and they should be locked up. The American citizen should be charged with treason.
Zarn
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They do seem to be guilty (training with paint ball guns and training in the Poconos). I know that a father and at least two sons were involved.
The US has been monitoring these people for months. My guess is that they were waiting for them to make references to 'higher ups' in their organization, but it did not seem to work.
The US has been monitoring these people for months. My guess is that they were waiting for them to make references to 'higher ups' in their organization, but it did not seem to work.
Probably also building a solid 'conspiracy to commit murder' case so prosecutors could convict them without needing to deal with all the crap associated with prosecuting terrorists for planning terrorism.
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