Terrorists suspected in attack in China's Muslim region that kills 16

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BEIJING : Chinese police suspect terrorists were behind an attack early Monday in China's Muslim-populated far northwest that left 16 police officers dead.

State media said two armed drove a lorry into the station in the Xinjiang city of Kashgar, throwing two grenades, which exploded, killing 16 and injuring 16 others, the Xinhua news agency reported.

The attackers were arrested about 8:00 am (0000 GMT), according to the agency.

Initial reports were partly self-contradictory, with one earlier Xinhua dispatch saying two vehicles were involved.

In a separate report filed minutes earlier, Xinhua reported an explosion in Xinjiang, providing no further details. It was unclear if this referred to the attack on the police station.

"We don't have any information about it. We have not heard of this matter," a police spokesman in Xinjiang's capital Urumqi told AFP when contacted about the initial report about the explosion. He declined to give his name.

China has warned repeatedly of a major terrorist threat emanating from Xinjiang, saying that militants there were planning to attack the Olympics.

"The Beijing Olympics is facing a terrorist threat unsurpassed in Olympic history," the People's Daily, the mouthpiece of the ruling Communist Party, said in an editorial last month.

However rights groups and members of the ethnic Muslim Uighur population in Xinjiang have accused the government of exggerating the threat as cover to crackdown on all forms of dissent.

Xinjiang, a vast area that borders Central Asia, has about 8.3 million Uighurs, and many are unhappy with what they say has been six decades of repressive Chinese rule.

China has deployed more than 100,000 security personnel to provide security for the Games, which begin on Friday and end on August 24.

A senior official said last week the main Olympic threats were from the East Turkestan Islamic Movement in Xinjiang, separatist forces seeking Tibetan independence, the banned Falungong spiritual group and overseas pro-democracy forces.

Spokespeople for the Beijing Olympics organising committee were not immediately available to comment on Monday's raid.

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Chinese border attack 'kills 16'


So the threat was genuine. Should the Chinese Gov use more heavy handle measures against the terrorist ? Like what the Iraqis gov and USA has been doing to the insurgents in Iraq ?

What changes will u see from the Chinese Gov ?
 
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So the threat was genuine. Should the Chinese Gov use more heavy handle measures against the terrorist ? Like what the Iraqis gov and USA has been doing to the insurgents in Iraq ?

What changes will u see from the Chinese Gov ?

The Chinese government should just cancel the Olympics altogether. It attracts too many unwanted attention. Beside in general China should keep himself low profile, Olympics is just a wet dream comes true for those who desperately seek attentions including any terrorist organization.
 
It's too late to cancel now, but yeah I was among those with the unpopular idea that this is not yet the time for China to host the Olympics.

Too many internal problems... too many enemies... not much goodwill nor trust from the world... the Olympics a golden opportunity for all malcontents to show their antics to an eagerly watching global media... China should've waited and continued low-profile hunkered-down work to improve the economy and all other conditions first, only showing off after there can already be no more question of one's power.

What the government should do now is to respond to the terrorist threats. Fast and hard! All over the country! If this smacks of paranoia so be it! The Olympics (and all the guests) must be kept safe. Damn if the heavy police presence makes them they feel like they're being imprisoned. Damn if nobody gets to have any fun. Security is more important!
 
Free Uighurstan! They deserve it for having a less lame religion than Tibet. Oh, and historically nomadic states are cool. And it makes no sense that muslims completely ignore the plight of the Uighurs.
 
Yep, China should use all force necessary to subjugate the religious morons.

So the threat was genuine. Should the Chinese Gov use more heavy handle measures against the terrorist ?

Absolutely, whatever keeps the people safe. Warn the fantics that if they don't stop the government will take more punative measures.

The threat was dealt with admirably.
 
I'm gonna feel sorry for those guys when the Olympics are over. Once the press leaves, well, then the Chinese can take the gloves off.
 
why do I immediately suspect that this was a set-up to give Beijing an excuse to get rid of those pesky muslims who dare want to live their own lives?

I have been to the region, and it is shocking to see how Beijing tries to culturally and politically annihilate the Uigurs, mainly by moving Han Chinese in in huge numbers and making sure that Uigurs are not successful in schools.
 
So the TROP showed it's ugly face in China today. Who would've thought. I hope that chinese government will take severe measures against terrorists and their simpathizers on chinese soil.
 
The militarists/radicals in Xinjiang will only make things worse for the ordinary law-abiding people on the streets >_<
 
The militarists/radicals in Xinjiang will only make things worse for the ordinary law-abiding people on the streets >_<

Maybe if China had not seized their land 50 some years ago it would not be such a problem...

The Uighurs know whats up, they know how China likes to socially engineer their new territories and the autonomous regions, if they don't act now in some capacity then when?
 
The Chinese government should just cancel the Olympics altogether. It attracts too many unwanted attention. Beside in general China should keep himself low profile, Olympics is just a wet dream comes true for those who desperately seek attentions including any terrorist organization.

It's too late to cancel now, but yeah I was among those with the unpopular idea that this is not yet the time for China to host the Olympics.

Too many internal problems... too many enemies... not much goodwill nor trust from the world... the Olympics a golden opportunity for all malcontents to show their antics to an eagerly watching global media... China should've waited and continued low-profile hunkered-down work to improve the economy and all other conditions first, only showing off after there can already be no more question of one's power.

What the government should do now is to respond to the terrorist threats. Fast and hard! All over the country! If this smacks of paranoia so be it! The Olympics (and all the guests) must be kept safe. Damn if the heavy police presence makes them they feel like they're being imprisoned. Damn if nobody gets to have any fun. Security is more important!

indeed, some dissidents are using the Olympic as an opportunity to justify their motive or dream. such attacks and riots were almost totally unheard of in the past. well, i think once the Olympic is over, the western media will then move their attentions towards other stuffs... neglecting the dissidents once more.
 
Maybe if China had not seized their land 50 some years ago it would not be such a problem...

The Uighurs know whats up, they know how China likes to socially engineer their new territories and the autonomous regions, if they don't act now in some capacity then when?

Xinjiang was part of china for at least 200 years and maybe even more depending on how one look at it...

so this kind of uprising is just some one time attention seeking thing. The only "enforcement" on the Muslim i know about is how the CPC tries to limit the size of the mosque they built. As they felt that the Muslim are pouring their life saving into building grander and bigger mosques, instead of saving them for retirement or upgrade their educations.
 
why do I immediately suspect that this was a set-up to give Beijing an excuse to get rid of those pesky muslims who dare want to live their own lives?

I have been to the region, and it is shocking to see how Beijing tries to culturally and politically annihilate the Uigurs, mainly by moving Han Chinese in in huge numbers and making sure that Uigurs are not successful in schools.

thats very interesting. how did they make sure that the Uigurs are not successful in school ?
 
Xinjiang was part of china for at least 200 years and maybe even more depending on how one look at it...

so this kind of uprising is just some one time attention seeking thing. The only "enforcement" on the Muslim i know about is how the CPC tries to limit the size of the mosque they built. As they felt that the Muslim are pouring their life saving into building grander and bigger mosques, instead of saving them for retirement or upgrade their educations.

Uighurstan was also independent, part of the Mongol Empire, probably had a few pieces in the Tibetan and old Samarkandian Empires, but now if you gave that region a plebiscite...they would likely vote independence. Especially if you had given that plebiscite when they WERE independent 50 years ago.

If China wants to keep that territory despite unrest, it's their problem to deal with it. No sympathy, and they better as hell keep the Olympians and travelers safe.
 
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