[RD] The all-meat diet.

[warpus]

Salt is the main murderer of flavour IMO.

Salt brings out flavour out of almost anything. Without salt a lot of foods taste bland.

Sure, if you buy processed food, which is pre-loaded with tons of salt, and you add even more.. then you are right.

 

[Kozmos]

I come from a salt-heavy regional cuisine so when I finally started cooking for myself and of course forgetting to put salt I was amazed how much variety in taste there was. You are right about processed foods though, I can't imagine adding salt to that.

 

[Samson]

Then just have some liver every other day.

I looked it up, and you want only about 3-400g of liver a day. That is less than I had expected. Still quite a bit though.

The site mentions bad breath but claims it is only in the transition period. Also worth noting that Inuit had very strong bones.

It depends on how you are doing your diet. Atkins would recommend increasing the carbohydrate content of the diet after the initial period, so this would reduce the ketosis. This diet seems to be advocating keeping basically zero carbs for an extended period. If you are not eating carbs you will be producing ketones (your brain needs one or the other). If you have ketones in your blood you will smell of them. Note this is not traditional bad breath, the product of bacterial digestion mostly in your mouth. This is the distinct smell of ketones, that only some people can smell. I cannot so cannot describe it.

 

[Kyriakos]

The all meat diet will lead to loss of weight, but only when the micro-organisms in your intestines come out to forage.

 

[civvver]

No salt? How is anything you are eating going to have any flavour? I couldn't do that, salt is the main ingredient in any cooking, if you don't use it your food is likely going to suck.

Unless the meal design is for the salt to come from some of the meat? Like the pork maybe?



You would be amazed how good you can feel if you cut out a lot of carbs out of your diet. At least that's what happened to me, I was feeling a lot more energetic and started losing weight and feeling healthier. And I don't mean go extreme either, have some bread and rice here and there.. Just don't drink much pop, don't go out of your way for potatoes, etc.

I wouldn't say we are adapted to eating a lot of carbs. We only really started doing that a couple thousand years ago. That's not really enough time for evolution to adapt our stomachs and bodies to this radically different type of diet that farming allows us to eat.

It's not carbs, it's sugar. There's sugar in almost everything we eat now, drinks, breads, sauces, dressings, yogurt. If you cut out all the added sugar from your diet you can probably eat any other carbs you want and be fine. Although of course if you just pound potato chips and whole milk you won't be healthy so it's balance but main offender for most americans is sugar by far.

 

[warpus]

Carbs, sugar, they are pretty much different forms of the same thing, right? (More or less)

The carb-heavy food pyramid nonsense that people continue buying into is one of the big reasons why we have so many fat people sweating so much in today's fast paced society

 

[civvver]

I mean they are and they aren't. Sure drinking juice and pop is essentially the same thing nutritionally (if you added vitamins to the pop that is), but added sugar inflates your carb intake so quickly and it's often hidden from the consumer. Like why the hell is there corn syrup in my bread? I get that some bread recipies call for a bit of sugar to activate the yeast, but a lot put it in for flavor to replace fat and advertise as low fat. That's what lite salad dressings do. Other products put it in to get you addicted to eat like ketchup. Actually mcdonalds I think admitted to adding sugar to the kids hamburger buns so they'd crave it.

And if you eat unprocessed carbs you'll naturally eat less sugar. Like with juice, eating an orange is a better alternative.

Carb heavy stuff though just comes from human history, when we were hunter gatherers it was hard to come by as many carbs. Then we started farming cereal grains and suddenly there was a surplus of food that led to population booms. We need to mainly eat carbs to be able to feed everyone.

 

[warpus]

There is corn syrop in everything because they get a ton of subsidies from the tax payer in the U.S. So it's really cheap as a result and has an advantage over other additives. I think.

I get that we need to use carbs to feed everyone due to logistics, but our bodies are sort of built to run on other things. It works, especially in places where other food sources are not so abundant, but here in the west where you can get your hands on virtually almost anything, cutting out some carbs is a good idea, assuming you have the money to replace it with something else.

 

[Gigaz]

You would be amazed how good you can feel if you cut out a lot of carbs out of your diet. At least that's what happened to me, I was feeling a lot more energetic and started losing weight and feeling healthier. And I don't mean go extreme either, have some bread and rice here and there.. Just don't drink much pop, don't go out of your way for potatoes, etc.

I wouldn't say we are adapted to eating a lot of carbs. We only really started doing that a couple thousand years ago. That's not really enough time for evolution to adapt our stomachs and bodies to this radically different type of diet that farming allows us to eat.

It is actually 200 generations for most populations, and in evolution that's more than enough to adapt to a new diet. But there is apparently a big difference between starch and sugar. Sugar is relatively bad for most people.

 

[warpus]

There's gotta be studies done on our stomachs to see if they have indeed evolved and adapted to our radically different diets. From what I understand we don't really know all too much about the bacteria which lives in our gut, which has a lot to do with this. So either way it could be a bit of an unknown whether we have really already adapted to these carb-filled diets. Everyone around me is getting fat, so I am going to go with "Nope", but I admit that is not very scientific

 

[civvver]

Well in general I think we just eat too much whether it's carbs, sugar, fat, or healthy foods. I know I eat too much. Food is so damn cheap and tasty. Taco bell is delicious! Beer is delicious and comes with pleasant side affects (and not so pleasant ones the next morning sometimes). And our activity levels are way down so almost none of us have physically demanding jobs any more.

 

[Narz]

One guy in the Guinness Book of World Records eat a whole airplane and survived plus a bunch of other crazy **** like a bicycle from what I remember.

Just cause some just some idiot can do something and survive does it mean it's recommended.

Seeing is like a billion studies show that eating green vegetables reduce your cancer risk by 1/4 to 1/2 I'll go with that over some random dude who eats all meat (supposedly) and manages to survive.

Reminds me of the argument by people who don't want to eat healthy we talked about their grandfather great nothing but fried chicken and lived till 92. The smart person is not going to be swayed by such a story.

 

[warpus]

Well in general I think we just eat too much whether it's carbs, sugar, fat, or healthy foods. I know I eat too much. Food is so damn cheap and tasty. Taco bell is delicious! Beer is delicious and comes with pleasant side affects (and not so pleasant ones the next morning sometimes). And our activity levels are way down so almost none of us have physically demanding jobs any more.

Taco Bell is alright, but you guys don't even have the best item on the menu, the Fries Supreme. It's the only reason I ever go to Taco Bell, but if you try to order them in America you'll get looked at like an idiot.

 

[Farm Boy]

It's sort of like expecting complimentary refills on the soda abroad.

 

[warpus]

It just blew my mind the first time I tried ordering that in the U.S. I figured it's gotta be at staple at every single Taco Bell because it tastes so amazing compared to everything else you can get there. I had to regain my composure and look at the menu and quickly conclude that there are no fries at all on the menu anywhere (This was still before every fast food place switched their menus to menus that hide items and change all the time, so you could see everything on offer at one quick glance)

Spoiler :

 

[Farm Boy]

They do look good. Taco Bell changes up its menu all the time. I can hope they spin through for a couples weeks one of these years. Taco Bell is mostly good for its soda flavors in my opinion. They've got the Baja Mountain Dew and the Sangria Mountain Dew. You can add those 50/50 and then put in a splash of the hyper-orange flavored drink and the result is pretty golden. Far as I can tell the only reason I go there anymore is when I want some chips and the rest of my caloric intake in a liter's worth of refilled soft drink.

 

[civvver]

I love almost everything at taco bell cus it's all the same thing configured different ways basically lol. But no fries in america. You probably have them cus poutine is popular, and that looks like mexican poutine basically.

But nacho supreme add red sauce and habenro sauce when they have it is the way to go. And cheesy gordita crunch with lots of fire sauce.

 

[warpus]

I don't mind Taco Bell, but I heard the beef they use in the U.S. is not so great and very low quality. (no idea if that's true) It also gives me the craps 20-40% of the time I eat there. That can't be a good sign.

 

[Mouthwash]

I'm sure you've all heard of the new fried chicken shell by now, so I won't bring that up. Well, I just did. Now you have to try it.

 

[CavLancer]

I tried this in the 70s, but with pizza instead.