The End of NES2 V.

What now (after I rest a while, ofcourse)?


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@Stalin- Here are two maps, one is the Hungary-Poland-Germany area only, the other shows the whole world for a better perspective.I gave you the Germans, part of Poland, part of Hungary, most of Slovakia, most of the Czechs, a bit of Slovenia, and the Italians. I marked out berlin as the capital to make it look more like a country than a colony or something, it really just looked wrong to me without a capital. Of course, if you wanted, say Prague or Vienna as your capital, go ahead, I wouldn't care.
 

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My mind is boggling...the diplomacy has begun before the NES even starts!

This is defnitely gonna be a popular one...

Viva l'Espana!

You know Israelite, not to impede your deal or anything, but won't your people...not to mention your parliament...disagree significantly with giving away so much territory?
 
Israelite9191 said:
@Stalin- Here are two maps, one is the Hungary-Poland-Germany area only, the other shows the whole world for a better perspective.I gave you the Germans, part of Poland, part of Hungary, most of Slovakia, most of the Czechs, a bit of Slovenia, and the Italians. I marked out berlin as the capital to make it look more like a country than a colony or something, it really just looked wrong to me without a capital. Of course, if you wanted, say Prague or Vienna as your capital, go ahead, I wouldn't care.


well i would be thinking of more of Historical prussia in it. including more in the north. The map shows that you get the better deal :lol:
 
Thlayli said:
My mind is boggling...the diplomacy has begun before the NES even starts!

This is defnitely gonna be a popular one...

Viva l'Espana!

You know Israelite, not to impede your deal or anything, but won't your people...not to mention your parliament...disagree significantly with giving away so much territory?


well the parliment is run by Prussians, not what he wants. the nation is also a unified number of 4 states. So divisions between the german speaking and the not, wouldnt be so unrealistic.

Israelite, get on aim.
 
Heres the Proposal of a Prussian-Autrian State. u still maitain a majority of the territory, but we are prepared for such.
 

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Thats not a very German colour you got there stalin :D.

Das NES pre-game diplo is allways funny ^^.
 
@Thlayli- Well, Hungarians are very nationalistic and Poles tend to desipise Germans, so neither would be too against getting rid of the Germans. The Hungarians and Poles are also used to living as one nation, I believe there have been several times that the thrones were shared (I know of at least one, I believe there were at least two, possibly three or four). The parliament, which is controled by the German Junkers, shouldn't be too much of a problem since the Germans would want a country of their own if given the chance, wouldn't they? Also, by living in a country with only themselves in the parliament, they would gain personal, and comunal, political power by incredible amounts.
 
For a second there I was wondering 'Hey, who's the new guy?'

Who's the guy in your avatar IP?
 
I wonder if I should try the Ottomans again, just because I'm a masochistic penguin. Or maybe to regain my honour. Yeah, that's it.
 
I like the alt-history. The only thing that somewhat bothers me is the absence of an English power, since even before the union with Scotland England had a reasonable colonial empire, but it is a small tid bit, and I would gladly play.

It did have a colonial empire, but it wasn't very large yet. The French took over it, as well as the Dutch one (which was for many reasons smaller than in OTL). England was crippled by the civil wars - the first one ended with Charles I fleeing for France, the second one - with Oliver Cromwell's execution under the close guard of the French expeditionary force...

What is it with China being super strong in every single alt-history?

A coincidence, really. Besides, I did make one althist recently where China is divided between two dynasties, and both of them aren't Chinese at all...

It wasn't advanced

As of the OTL 18th century... not sure, but IMHO it didn't fall back too far behind yet. Different in this world due to the generally more advanced Europe, but, as was pointed out, it didn't yet stagnate, and is still capable of catching up, unlike in 19th century when it was already too late.

I've read that the Chinese ships used during that war (given to China by the French or other Europeans) were more powerful than the Japanese, but due to Chinese idiocy during the conflict, the Japanese ended up inflicting a harsh victory on China.

I've read the opposite (namely, that the British sold ships to both sides, only far better ships to the Japanese). ;)

If the nation were an NPC that were to follow the natural line of succession and the characteristics of those leaders, then China would fall, undoubtably.

It would not follow the "natural line of succession and the characteristics of those leaders", not in my NES anyway. But... what are the chances of it being an NPC, anyway?

Could you tell me more about the strength and stability of the Spanish government, das?

Spanish reforms have reinvigorated the country, and the buerocracy was also overhauled to deal with the problems of corruption. The downside to it is the conservative opposition to the progressive ways of the central government, especially in the colonies.

I'd hope that the gold from the New World hasn't caused an inflationary economic problem, has it?

Ofcourse it has. But by now Spain has dealt with it.

Next week?

That's the most likely option, point is I'm not completely sure and don't want to make empty promises.

Does it come with Iceland and colonies on Greenland?

Look on the map. ;)

Das, what is the name of the Indian nation?

Mughal Empire.

Is it Mughal or Hindu?

Based on its name I'd assume it to be Tamil. ;)

And finally, which European power does it favor?

It hates both Portugal and France, but has worked with Spain in the past because of common enemies.

we can divide the nation between German-Austrians and Polish-Hungarians.

The people - from both factions - won't understand, I'm afraid. Civil war! Civil war! Civil war!

It almost happened during the reign of Louis XV in our OTL, yet Louis instead decided to give the netherlands back to Austria.

Wrong Louis, IMHO. Unless we're talking about different Netherlands. Anyway, Henri IV (who is definitely the Great) conquered the Spanish ones, and Louis XIII conquered the United Provinces during one of their "Stadholderless periods". The Dutch cities still do enjoy considerable autonomy, though.

well the parliment is run by Prussians, not what he wants.

They're the predominant faction, but there are others. And besides, the majority of them don't want to split the nation neither. If those Magyars try to take over the government, the Junkers want to fight them to the last drop of blood!

No reservations, right das?

Right, right...

neither would be too against getting rid of the Germans.

Quiestonable. Maybe the Magyars would, but the Poles rather won't break up the Union, if only because they created it (and because the Germans provide a considerable amount of manpower, without which the Poles can't be sure of safety from the Russo-Lithuanians).

the Germans would want a country of their own if given the chance, wouldn't they?

Problem is, they don't, in their majority. They are mostly content in dominating the Union - both politically and economically.
 
so your not starting ITNES? Just another NES with 3 huge empires? heh.
 
And now, a map with economic centers (subject to future change).
 

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You people are real jerks you know...jebus....Im taking whatever I want, whatever I see.

I challenge whoever gets mad to take the time and effort to coordinate a SUCCESSFUL rebellion campaign, since its like the hardest thing in the history of mankind in a das nes ;)
 
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