Farm Boy
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Because I find that tedium to be a short road to lethal.Why does something have to be worth living for? Why do you need a purpose higher than simply existing
Because I find that tedium to be a short road to lethal.Why does something have to be worth living for? Why do you need a purpose higher than simply existing
How does adding an artificial layer reduce tedium?Because I find that tedium to be a short road to lethal.
"I am toiling and suffering but I'm doing my best in a chaotic world" feels less depressing than "I am toiling and suffering because God wants me to"
What seems indisputable is that feeling some sense of purpose, whatever it is, is preferable to merely existing.
I feel a lot of philosophy disputes this. It is very freeing once you accept we are merely existing for a short glimmer.
Moreover, when God gives someone wealth and possessions, and the ability to enjoy them, to accept their lot and be happy in their toil—this is a gift of God.
They seldom reflect on the days of their life, because God keeps them occupied with gladness of heart.
Hitting it out of the park today, Lord.The sleep of a laborer is sweet,
whether they eat little or much,
but as for the rich, their abundance
permits them no sleep.
I feel a lot of philosophy disputes this.
Philosophy is like a pretty bird locked in a cage of logic. It cannot sing and its feathers cannot sparkle, though, until relesed into the wild.I feel a lot of philosophy disputes this. It is very freeing once you accept we are merely existing for a short glimmer.
Well maybe that's just the need of some to stretch the definition of science so as to increase the amount of past great people within the discipline, otherwise you only have great individuals of science spanning the last three hundred years. Not very impressive if your goal is to prove the superiority of one discipline over organized religion which has existed in one form or another for at least the last 12,000 years (would be even older if we consider tribal/totemic religions as "organized")
I'm not sure it's always about control. In many cases yes, but in some it's more personal or about being content in a reality whereby most individuals don't really have much power to change anything at all, be it death, getting screwed over by someone else, etc.
God doesn't feel so remote the more he touches your life. Your hair will grey in fits and spurts like Moses, too, aging isn't a gentle slide, it's more like a lazy river theme park ride with erratic fatal rapids. God's touch hurts. God's touch is change. Still the only thing worth living for. Something has to be. Especially if you are going to create mortal children to sacrifice to the world. May all of everyone's here add beauty to the dance.
The ideology of western liberal capitalism is also a religion. You need only look at how the people advocating it are doing so from a perspective of faith rather than sanity.
When you hear the poor arguing minimal wage laws are bad you can't but draw a parallel to the poor dying of the plague who cling to the notion that god has a plan.
To quote an android character from the Star Trek episode "I, Mudd": "It is necessary to have purpose."Why does something have to be worth living for? Why do you need a purpose higher than simply existing?
What seems indisputable is that feeling some sense of purpose, whatever it is, is preferable to merely existing.
Purpose spoonfed to you by religious leaders vs choosing ones own. Seems to make a big difference. Obviously there's no getting away from cultural influence but choosing one's driving purpose haphazardly based on what others around you believe strikes me as beyond tragic.This is a matter of taste, about which one should not argue. What seems indisputable is that feeling some sense of purpose, whatever it is, is preferable to merely existing.
Nice one, Jeff Bezos should emblazen it on the walls of Amazon factories.It's the "be happy in their toil" that particularly resonated with me.
This one feels more up Kim Jun Un's alleyThey seldom reflect on the days of their life, because God keeps them occupied with gladness of heart.
But God does, he's like ceiling catThe pastor doesn't follow me around.
That would be to distort its meaning because, in the context of the whole quote, on those occasions when it happens, it's a gift. The quote is not in the imperative voice; does not command you to "be happy in your toil." It says that, if you are happy in your toil, that is a joy over and above the enjoyable goods that that toil wins you. I have that gift; that's why the phrase resonates with me.Nice one, Jeff Bezos should emblazen it on the walls of Amazon factories.
I know what you mean but it still don't like the vibe.That would be to distort its meaning because, in the context of the whole quote, on those occasions when it happens, it's a gift. The quote is not in the imperative voice; does not command you to "be happy in your toil." It says that, if you are happy in your toil, that is a joy over and above the enjoyable goods that that toil wins you. I have that gift; that's why the phrase resonates with me.
If you read a thousand books and “choose” what to believe, what is the actual basis of your choice? Where do the values you make that choice come from and can you really take credit for believing in the same things anyone else who might grew up as you and read the same books did…? I mean you claim that you’re wise for not listening to church leaders. But another interpretation is that you’re arrogant and you refuse to contemplate any truth in what they say at all. Instead you get your truth from books. But you might also just be cherry picking things that confirm your already-had, deeply held beliefs. Is it really you choosing, or is that just a story you believe in so that you can justify your individualism and arrogance?Purpose spoonfed to you by religious leaders vs choosing ones own. Seems to make a big difference. Obviously there's no getting away from cultural influence but choosing one's driving purpose haphazardly based on what others around you believe strikes me as beyond tragic.
We're blessed to be able to read 1000s of books if we like. For a peasant 1000 years ago perhaps unconditionally trusting the validity of the one book read to them by a priest made sense, now it's absurd.
We got one life, one mind and gonna say durr, yeah the Bible or Koran that's the stuff... Such a waste of a human brain
There are times when even the devil's fault becomes part of God's plan as well.I know what you mean but it still don't like the vibe.
God always wants to get credit for "his gifts" but when stuff goes wrong it's the devil's fault or man for not being all up on his junk enuf.
Either everything is his gift (genocide, slavery, rape, depression, suicide, animals devouring each other alive including) or nothing is.
I'm not taking credit. I'm blessed to have opportunities to learn. I'm in no way superior to someone in some Islamist state forced to wear a burka, be subservient to her husband without educational opportunities , I'm just lucky.If you read a thousand books and “choose” what to believe, what is the actual basis of your choice? Where do the values you make that choice come from and can you really take credit for believing in the same things anyone else who might grew up as you and read the same books did…?
No. There's not much wisdom necessary, any idiot can realize a scam if they take the time to consider what's being sold. My 5yo step daughter understands Santa is BS for instance.I mean you claim that you’re wise for not listening to church leaders.
I've contemplated religion that's how I realize it's dumb. Atheists generally understand religion more than believers.But another interpretation is that you’re arrogant and you refuse to contemplate any truth in what they say at all.
I try to understand the truth as ignorance leads to pain. I'm far from perfect and have my own biases.Instead you get your truth from books. But you might also just be cherry picking things that confirm your already-had, deeply held beliefs.
I don't need to justify my individualism. It isIs it really you choosing, or is that just a story you believe in so that you can justify your individualism and arrogance?
That's what church and sermons areAfter all it’s pretty freaking arrogant to believe religious people have all had “purpose” spoonfed to them.
Stop calling me that it's icky. But people who grow up in a community believing in the community’s values is so normal that it applies to you too, Narzy boy.
This gets funnier every time you type it.I've contemplated religion that's how I realize it's dumb. Atheists generally understand religion more than believers.