The Final and Definitive Sandwich Thread

[cardgame]

Are pigs in a blanket a sandwich? I can't endorse.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Are pigs in a blanket a sandwich? I can't endorse.

I would say no. Even though the protruding ends might break "full enclosure," the intention of "wrapping" rather than a "put between" structure is pretty clearly there.

 

[civvver]

Pigs in a blanket the dough is baked around the hot dog. All these pocket like sandwiches are like that. So calzone is not a sandwich either because of this. But if you baked dough separately and then used it as bread with calzone type toppings, then it would be a sandwich. I think the separating feature is when it's cooked together, and not just toasted or grilled after.


Disney released a recipe for a special grilled cheese.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...-grilled-cheese-sandwich-from-toy-story-land/

Two main features are the bread is not buttered, they use a garlic mayo instead, and inside along with cheese slices is a cream cheese and shredded cheese spread mixture. It looked overly packed with cheese to me, but the idea of using cream cheese sounds fantastic. I have used mayo before in lieu of butter but it seems to brown a lot faster.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Pigs in a blanket the dough is baked around the hot dog. All these pocket like sandwiches are like that. So calzone is not a sandwich either because of this. But if you baked dough separately and then used it as bread with calzone type toppings, then it would be a sandwich. I think the separating feature is when it's cooked together, and not just toasted or grilled after.


Disney released a recipe for a special grilled cheese.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...-grilled-cheese-sandwich-from-toy-story-land/

Two main features are the bread is not buttered, they use a garlic mayo instead, and inside along with cheese slices is a cream cheese and shredded cheese spread mixture. It looked overly packed with cheese to me, but the idea of using cream cheese sounds fantastic. I have used mayo before in lieu of butter but it seems to brown a lot faster.

There is an internal conflict in this post. If the separating feature is in the cooking together, then a grilled cheese is not a sandwich. On the other hand, I take a steamed tortilla and wrap it completely around whatever already prepared filling and I have a burrito, which wasn't cooked together but is in my opinion not a sandwich.

To me the defining characteristic remains between vs in, with on being a grey area. I split a mini loaf in half and shove fillings between them, I have a sub, which is a sandwich. I roll stuff up in a tortilla and I have a burrito, which is not a sandwich. I split a hot dog bun the same way I split that loaf and put a hot dog between the halves and I have a sandwich. I roll the hot dog in dough and bake it I have a yummy pig in a blanket, but I don't have a sandwich. I put stuff between two flatbreads, that's a sandwich, if I open one up like a pocket and put stuff inside it that's not a sandwich.

 

[civvver]

Not true because the bread in grilled cheese isn't raw, it's already been cooked, you're just grilling it.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Not true because the bread in grilled cheese isn't raw, it's already been cooked, you're just grilling it.

An obvious dodge, but a pretty good one. I'm still sticking with between rather than in.

 

[civvver]

Side note: I had the most glorious breakfast I've had in a while. Scrambled egg and cheese quesadilla, grilled to perfection, which I then slathered in hot sauce and dipped in chipotle ranch.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Yesterday I was using up the last of this chicken salad that I made. There was two slices and the crusts left of this loaf of bread, so I made a sandwich with the two slices. Couldn't fit in all the chicken salad, so I dropped what was left on one of the crusts. If I had smeared it around and picked it up like a pizza it would have been "open faced." Since I picked it up by the edges and sort of shut them it was more a "half sandwich." But I didn't want the filling to fall out so I kept it upright and was struck by how the thin bread crust was just like a tortilla really and I was eating it with the same motion I would use to bite a taco.

IT WAS CHICKEN SALAD ON WHEAT BREAD!

You don't get any more "sandwich" then that. Open face, folded, taco...all sandwiches.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Somewhere upthread there was mention of Pop Tarts. I have since tried the Chocolate Fudge variety. It's surprisingly tasty.

But just to reiterate: It's a pastry, not a sandwich.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

But just to reiterate: It's a pastry, not a sandwich.

why are those mutually exclusive?

 

[Traitorfish]

*banging fists on table*

Cornish! Pasties! Are! A sandwich!

 

[Valka D'Ur]

why are those mutually exclusive?

It's a pastry. It's filling enclosed by a crust, topped with frosting. That is not a sandwich. There is no bread involved in a Pop Tart.

It would make more sense to call a raspberry Timbit a sandwich, though that isn't one, either.

*banging fists on table*

Cornish! Pasties! Are! A sandwich!

According to Wikipedia, it's a pastry. To me it looks like a pie in the shape of a dumpling. I would not define any of those as sandwiches.

It looks interesting, though.

 

[Ferocitus]

Star Wars Cantina - Sith Sandwich.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

It's a pastry. It's filling enclosed by a crust, topped with frosting. That is not a sandwich. There is no bread involved in a Pop Tart.
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I agree with you either way on the pop tart (same for oreos), I'm just unsure whether pastry and sandwich are two mutually exclusive categories

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I agree with you either way on the pop tart (same for oreos), I'm just unsure whether pastry and sandwich are two mutually exclusive categories

A sandwich requires the involvement of either bread or buns. If you're going to include pastries, you might as well call a Nanaimo bar a sandwich (which it isn't).

 

[Traitorfish]

If I eat some bread, and then some meat, and then some bread, is that a temporal sandwich?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

If I eat some bread, and then some meat, and then some bread, is that a temporal sandwich?

Deep. Very deep.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

If I eat some bread, and then some meat, and then some bread, is that a temporal sandwich?

No. Not unless they were all part of the same sandwich and you took it apart to eat it (which I have done occasionally, if the sandwich was too awkwardly constructed to eat without spilling one or more ingredients)

 

[Timsup2nothin]

No. Not unless they were all part of the same sandwich and you took it apart to eat it (which I have done occasionally, if the sandwich was too awkwardly constructed to eat without spilling one or more ingredients)

Not sure I agree. Let's say someone is really hungry and/or in a hurry and the just peel off the parts and eat them, skipping the assembly process. Those parts are just as much parts of the same sort of potentially current sandwich. They were a "sandwich to be" where the disassembled sandwich is a "sandwich that was." I think as long as the parts are eaten in sequence and without interruption it would count.

Obviously the "without interruption" component is required. It's not like you can have toast for breakfast, a piece of chicken for lunch, and then eat a roll while waiting for dinner and say "oh I just had a sandwich."

 

[BenitoChavez]

My answer to this is to take all of the end products, whether it's a sandwich, a hot dog, burger, whatever. Each of these gets assigned an axis in some n-dimensional space. Adding/subtracting toppings, altering breads, changing the cooking method, etc just moves whatever you have along 1 or more axis.

For example, take your standard BLT with mayo. If you remove the bacon but add a grilled beef patty. That slides it down further away from the BLT axis and more towards the hamburger axis. Now remove the white bread and replace with a brioche bun. Now it slides further. Then replace the mayo with ketchup and voilà. Now you have a burger.

A 2-D representation.