Nope that is me as russia, vanilla so russia is orange. Edit: Sorry, didn't realize someone already answered the question. Anyway once i either win or lose i'll tell you exactly what happend with the replay. Milan was captured by greece, and Constaninople by rome. Aquelia was razed by the barbs. Then athens was captured by rome. Meanwhile egypt, persia and india and china are all about the same size and are peacefully watching the Greco roman drama. After greece collapses, milan remains barbarian and the world is relatively peaceful, with 5 wonders being built in 5 turns. Then in 470, rather close to the real date of the fall, rome is razed, along with roman carthage and aquelia and few turns earlier. No rome rome clings on to life till 530, when Athens becomes idependent. 590: Rome finnaly falls, Leaving europe completely empty for all sorts of shenanigans. 750: France spawns in Bavaria. Plain and simple. 800: Bordeaux or Burgidala was captured by spain. 870: It appears as if paris flipped to germany, because their is no "X has captured Y" it the messages.