The POTUS decides to be a chicken, pulls out of Afghanistan

Taliban break up rare protest by Afghan women in Kabul​

Taliban fighters have dispersed dozens of female protesters in Kabul, almost a year after the militant group seized power.
About 40 women marched through the Afghan capital demanding rights, before the Taliban broke it up by firing into the air.
The fighters seized their mobile phones, stopping one of the first women's protests in months.
Since the Taliban takeover, women rights' have been severely restricted.
The protesters chanted demands for "bread, work and freedom", carrying a banner reading "August 15 is a black day" - a reference to the day the Taliban captured Kabul in 2021.
"They didn't beat us much this time," one of the protesters told the BBC.

"They acted differently than earlier protests [when we were beaten]. They fired shots in the air. Though we're afraid we came out to advocate for the rights of girls, so that at least the Taliban will open schools for them."
In the year since the Taliban returned to power, they have issued various orders restricting the freedom of women - barring them from most government jobs, secondary education and from travelling more than 45 miles (70km) without a male guardian.

In May, the militants decreed that Afghan women will have to wear the Islamic face veil for the first time in decades.
If a woman refuses to comply, her male guardians could be sent to jail for three days - although this is not always enforced.
There have been minor sporadic protests over the past year, but any form of dissent is being crushed.
Afghanistan is the only country in the world that officially limits education by gender - a major sticking point in the Taliban's attempts to gain international legitimacy.

Girls have been banned from receiving secondary education, the ministry for women's affairs has been disbanded, and in many cases women have not been allowed to work.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62532839
 
am at post #9200 , traditions requiring me to tell of how still ı am alive and so on , but yet what else would have happened ? With the fortunes of Political lslam taking a downturn elsewhere , America did a quick run . Though nobody doubts the drug deals and the American percentage of them are healthier than ever .

edit: Corrected it to "at post #" . Damned tablet , reliably wrecking my posts .
 
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Afghanistan: Taliban ban women from Kabul parks​

The Taliban have banned women from visiting all parks in Kabul, excluding them still further from public life in Afghanistan.

A spokesman for the Vice and Virtue Ministry told the BBC those managing parks in the capital had been told not to allow women in.
The group claims Islamic laws were not being followed at parks.
Women's rights and freedoms have been severely restricted since the militant Islamists seized power in August 2021.

Under Taliban rules on segregating people by gender, women have been allowed to visit parks on three days every week - Sunday, Monday, Tuesday - and men on the remaining four.
Now women won't be allowed even if accompanied by male relatives.

"We've done this because in the past 15 months, despite our efforts, people have been going to the park and not respecting Sharia laws," Mohammed Akif, spokesman for the Ministry of Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, told the BBC.
"The restriction is for all women, whether they are with or without a mahram [male escort]."

The ban on women extends to amusement parks that usually have rides like bumper cars or a ferris wheel, and where families visit together with their children.
It appears to be in force only in the capital for now, but in the past such rules have eventually applied across the country.
One woman who Reuters news agency caught up with at the entrance to a Kabul park was disappointed after being turned away.
"When a mother comes with their children, they must be allowed to enter the park, because these children haven't seen anything good... they must play and be entertained," said Masooma, who gave only her first name for security reasons.
Under the Taliban women in Afghanistan have been subjected to a series of curbs on their freedoms.
A number of women have been beaten for demanding their rights.
Women are barred from going on longer distance journeys without a male chaperone. Teenage girls have still not returned to school in most of the country, despite Taliban promises to allow them to do so.
While some women still work in sectors such as healthcare and education, most were told not to go to work after the Taliban swept back to power. In May a decree was passed ordering women to wear the Islamic face veil in public, although some in urban areas can still be seen failing to comply.
The Taliban have vowed there will be no brutal repression of women as there was when they were first in power in the 1990s.
They say they now respect women's rights in line with Sharia law, and are not against women being educated or having jobs.

But Western diplomats have indicated to the Taliban that resuming development funding for a country in deep economic crisis depends on the treatment of women improving.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63582047
 

Pakistan warns paperless migrants about jail time, alarming Afghans waiting to come to Canada​

Afghan refugee applicants warn the federal government about a new deadline looming in Pakistan for migrants​

Afghan refugee applicants and an aid group trying to bring them to Canada are warning the federal government about a new deadline looming in Pakistan for undocumented migrants.

Pakistan is threatening to throw people in jail for up to three years if they do not renew their visas by the end of 2022. The process costs applicants hundreds of dollars each — putting families that escaped Afghanistan and the Taliban with little or no money at a serious disadvantage.

A video ad produced by Pakistan's Ministry of the Interior has been streaming on government social media channels and on television since the start of October. It warns that "overstaying foreigners may be sentenced for up to three years of imprisonment" after December 31.

"The messaging by the Pakistani government that those Afghans that are in Pakistan illegally will be deported and potentially arrested is very troubling," said Brian Macdonald, executive director for Aman Lara, a non-profit organization of Canadian veterans and interpreters who have been working for more than a year to bring Afghan refugees to Canada.

While the only foreign countries named in the ad are India and Somalia, it's running in three different languages: Urdu (Pakistan's national language) and Dari and Pashto, frequently spoken by Afghans.

"They are targeting us directly," said Mohammad Younas Nasimi, an Afghan refugee applicant. He's living in a hotel room in Islamabad with his wife and six children while he waits to see if he qualifies for a Special Immigration Measures program run by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC).

The program is meant to help accelerate immigration for former military interpreters and other former employees of the Canadian government and armed forces, along with their families.

As a contract labourer, Nasimi helped Canadian troops in Afghanistan detect bombs and landmines laid by the Taliban.

Nasimi said he has been waiting for a reply from IRCC for a year.

He said he fears his family's status in Pakistan is becoming more precarious. A few weeks after he first saw the ad playing on television, he said, his two-year-old son was beaten up in their hotel.

"I still didn't find out who the guy was [that did this to him]," Nasimi said, adding his son suffered head injuries.

"His nose was very damaged and he was bleeding."

He said he sent the Canadian High Commission in Pakistan a note but all he got was a reply stating his immigration file was still being processed.

Pakistan says Afghans with valid papers will be 'facilitated'​

In a media statement, Pakistan's High Commission in Canada said it remains committed "to facilitating travelling from Pakistan of all those Afghans whose cases are identified by the sponsoring countries/governments through their Missions in Pakistan."

It also said the video ad applies to all overstaying foreigners, not just Afghans.

"[Afghans] having valid travel documents as well as visas/documents for onward travel from Pakistan have been and will be facilitated by the Government of Pakistan," said the statement.

CBC News has spoken to one refugee applicant whose paperless status has placed him in the crosshairs of police.

CBC News has agreed not to identify him because of the dangers he faces in Islamabad and those he would face after being deported to Afghanistan. He said he has been waiting for eleven months to find out if he qualifies to move to Canada.

He said his father worked as a carpenter with the Canadian Armed Forces and he was a volunteer with Aman Lara before he fled Afghanistan in 2021 following its fall to the Taliban.

He, his parents and nine siblings were only able to afford visa fees once after they moved to Islamabad from Afghanistan, he said. His family members have been waiting since to find out if they also qualify for Canada's immigration program.

In mid-October, they received a letter from their guest house urging them to renew their visas. "Dear guest we are facing problem from Pakistan law enforcement agencies," said the note, signed by a general manager for Capetown Guest House.

The Canadian High Commission and the United Nations' International Organization for Migration have since helped him and his family move to another guest house. The family is still waiting for their immigration paperwork to be cleared by the Canadian government.

'Constructive dialogue' with Pakistan continues, Ottawa says​

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada and Global Affairs Canada said in media statements that they continue to have strong relationships with the Pakistani government.

The IRCC said it has an "active and constructive dialogue" with Islamabad on "issues related to safe passage for vulnerable Afghans."

It side-stepped a question about concerns related to the video ad but said "each country maintains the authority to set its own entry and exit requirements."

Global Affairs said it appreciates "Pakistan's efforts in supporting Canada's Afghan resettlement program."

Roughly 18 charter flights carrying Afghans from Pakistan have come to Canada since January 2022, according to IRCC.

Citing security concerns, however, neither department would say how many Afghans are still waiting in Pakistan for permission to come to Canada.

Aman Lara said it is in touch with about 400 Afghans in the same situation.

According to a directive from Pakistan's government, from June to August this year it granted safe passage to Afghans who did not have valid travel documentation "through land air routes ... on a case by case basis, in coordination with the recipient third countries."

Aman Lara said it hopes authorities in Islamabad return to that policy.

"We encourage the government of Pakistan to reopen that window," said Macdonald.

But according to one Canadian government official with knowledge of the situation, Pakistan has told Canada and other countries with immigration measures for Afghans — such as the United Kingdom, the United States and Germany — that it cannot maintain loose borders forever for the sake of their immigration programs.

The source spoke to CBC News on the condition they not be named, as they were not authorized to comment publicly.

The source also said that, more than a year after the Taliban takeover, Islamabad no longer looks at the Afghan refugee situation as an emergency.

The source said Pakistan does periodic social media campaigns about border rules.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/afghan-migrant-refugee-canada-pakistan-1.6645091
 

Afghanistan: Taliban leader orders Sharia law punishments​

Taliban leader Haibatullah Akhundzada has ordered Afghan judges to impose punishments for certain crimes that may include public amputations and stoning.
His spokesman said offences such as robbery, kidnapping and sedition must be punished in line with the group's interpretation of Islamic Sharia law.
When in power in the 1990s, the Taliban were condemned for such punishments, which included public executions.
They promised to rule more moderately when they retook power last year.

But since then the militant Islamist group has steadily cracked down on freedoms. Women's rights in particular have been severely restricted.
The Taliban's supreme leader said judges must punish criminals according to Sharia, if the crime committed is a violation of those laws.

The Taliban's spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid tweeted late on Sunday that the "obligatory" command came after Mullah Akhundzada met a group of judges.
"Carefully examine the files of thieves, kidnappers and seditionists," Mujahid quoted Akhundzada as saying.
The exact crimes and punishments have not been defined by the Taliban, but one religious leader in Afghanistan told the BBC that under Sharia law, penalties could include amputations, public lashings and stoning.
The order is the latest evidence the Taliban are taking a tougher line on rights and freedoms.

Last week they banned women from visiting all parks in Kabul, excluding them still further from public life. It has since emerged the ban extends to women in the capital visiting public baths and gyms, although the latter attracted relatively few women.
Entry to parks, baths and gyms was already segregated under Taliban rules on segregating people by gender. The group claims Islamic laws were not being followed.


Levels of violence have fallen across Afghanistan since foreign troops pulled out after 20 years of war, in the face of the Taliban advance in the summer of 2021.
But the group has faced numerous allegations that it is abusing human rights, including of opponents, women and journalists.
It has vowed there will be no brutal repression of women as there was when it was in power from 1996-2001, but half the population face severe curbs on what they can do.
Women are barred from going on longer distance journeys without a male chaperone. Teenage girls have still not returned to school in most of the country, despite Taliban promises to allow them to do so.
While some women still work in sectors such as healthcare and education, most were told not to go to work after the Taliban swept back to power.
In May women were ordered to wear the Islamic face veil in public. A number of women have been beaten for demanding their rights.

Billions of dollars in Afghan assets held abroad are frozen as the international community waits for the Taliban to honour promises still to be met on security, governance and human rights.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63624400
 
The Afghan Army had the weapons but didn't fight. They got what they wanted -- a theocratic dictatorship that survives on donated food and medicine that tolerates high unemployment as long as it enforces some weird interpretation of a 1,200-year-old book.
 
Perhaps we need to invade? Fixing the world is a difficult proposition. Does one start at the local level and build up from there or does one take the top down approach and nation build? What has worked where to change peoples' lives in a good way?
 
Fixing the world is very much a universalist's dream.

And universalists have the tendency to seek the correct solution and try to apply it universally.

I see fixing the world as rather like eating an elephant.

An expert once advised that one should eat an elephant how one eats other things e.g. in mouthfuls.

In much the same way, I see that it is generally best to regard the world as divisible into sections
(countries, regions, planetary mouthfuls) and adopt the approach or solution that works best there.

Although some things such as ozone depletion and global warming are by their nature not so divisible.

A key universal approach is democracy, but that really only works if allowed to operate locally.

And top down generally clashes with local democracy.
 
it is 1444 in the Islamic calendar unless one has a conspiracy that says things were changed in a 200 years period . And it is an American lie that the Afghan Army didn't fight . Moneymaking required private [American] contractors who ran first , even before the US Military . Meaning this "top heavy" Afghan Army suddenly lacked all the support it needed to operate . As a Western style thing with helicopters , drones , satellite connections , truck maintenance . They are much better in sandals and with Kalashnikovs . Plus a majority was already in Iran on their way to the way more important front . America in search of proxies , unhappy with Kurds ! Like luckily they have Ukie the brave soldier these days .

and yeah , one will have the chance to see how it works or not when one brings Democracy to the US .
 
Yes, we're so lucky Russia invaded Ukraine.
 
indeed . You are having a veteran army on the cheap . Mind you , the brilliance of New Turkey can not be fully explained even at r16 level of English language skills . How can you explain Party journalists who now say Vladimir Putin is just a governor of the PM and the territorial integrity of Russia is now provided by New Turkey ?
 
I can't explain what I haven't read, no.

Why is "our" army destroying Russian influence anything other a win for the geopolitical rival autocratic state great for us again? We're in cahoots with the PRC because British pilots and American CEOs are venal and disloyal?
 
to save the great American project of the 21st Century , fixing all the "ills" of Islam , by invasion and proxies and the essential centerpiece is always on the brink after the fallout that saw the reported incapacitation of the Congregation ...

not meaning to insult or anything , but this means ı am claiming and you might not be agreing that America begat New Turkey which used and spent the credibility of this country to create and sustain the Arabian Spring with a million or so deaths . Without A-K-P in power you will have to make a choice . Of supporting the Kurds . Or basically ISIL . They can not exist in the same place . Because there are ways to see that . And Iranians are so awesomely good in conspiracy that you wouldn't even look beyond them to find culprits . Hence the destruction of my country , with more and more promised to the future owners of the land . Much like Trump deflated so easily when his orders were accepted as unlawful and not followed , it is just an impression of enduring power . Which means bringing in "refugees" from Pakistan , like defacto Taliban . Who really think the women will belong to them , after they kill the majority of men in this country . But you might have also have heard of that we are somehow currently good with drones and high tech weaponry . In addition to millions who served in the East in some serious stuff that was quite contained before becoming a real guerilla war thing . Taliban would really suffer , they are barely learning the language , no support . Hence the veterans and professionals of the Afghan Army , taken from their posts and stuff . Because they can call the B-52s , if it comes to that and so on . Because that meant a serious gap in combat potential and the White House needed the political reinforcement that they were turning over Afghanistan to Qatar which controls New Turkey under British orders ... And all those people falling off the landing gears of C-17s happened in the watch of the US Central Command ... Which kinda failed to solve the Turkish question in all those years .

which means the Russian invasion of Ukraine was facilitated by the US . Utterly destroys Russian potential for mischief when the real war starts . And very capable very experienced proxies . Ukie the brave soldier . Given reasons with silly talk , too . People can suddenly feel a certain chill when they understand they can make sense of r16 ; ı have been told so .
 
The real war is going to be to destroy our NATO ally and give its women to Pakistani fecesface men? I'm sorry if I'm not following right, that's not an attempt at sarcasm. We both know that's within the focus of the actual goals when one starts a war. Or to destroy Russia? There is one(are there more?) power that might be able to absorb Russia, and it's not USA. We didn't have the 60 years in us to nation build Afghanistan and it hasn't been long enough for us to forget.
 
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might not be agreing , ı said , right ? Every idiot thinks he has the answers to everything . If that makes you sleep better tonight , choose that . When it comes to the part when you suddenly learn the Jews too must be killed , you will be too tired to bother anyhow .
 
People been wanting to kill the Jews for a long time. Jews been pretending there aren't a lot of them in Hollywood. Both true. It's my demographic Americans envision when they picture the Klan. Kanye might be doing some work on that particular stormy front. You are saying it's around the corner after... Russians? Or Muslim people?
 
the thing about Jews involves NOT the they had Jesus Christ crucified , Washington does not want you talk about the Stuntwoman . To most of the Westerners in decision making we are just mongrels . When enough of us have been killed they might try to save us . Not everybody should be considered as a single type , but the "majority of Arabian Nobility that counts" blames us for events of 750 when some Central Asian interfered in stuff and brought down the Umeyyad . For that we have to die because that led to some 1000 years of Turks being in charge , not always an happy experience ı will have to admit . And this happened because they had employed slaves to fight off the dangers of the horsebandits . As long as they existed the Eastern Rome laughed at this , because they could always get rid of barbarian usurpers after a while . So , consider your demographics and whatnot were left alone or something because beating Russia offers immense prospects and this is indeed the major reason or whatever of the Midterms , because one side was indeed not rocking the boat . So , Russia , us to prevent another 1492 , Muslims , "Muslims" , Chinese in between maybe and finally the Final Final Solution . Though native English speakers would use something like Ultimate Solution .
 
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