The Speech that won the election

[hobbsyoyo]

Is it also your policy to never to make a decent argument?

He seems to have a policy of spamming posts instead of trying to collect a group of responses together as far as I can tell.

Helpful hint (in all seriousness): The multi button next to the quote button is very helpful.

Indeed. and I saw no endorsements

You expect a direct endorsement? That's a bit foolish.

How about putting the rhetoric aside for a moment and consider the fact that Romney is espousing many of the same ideas wrt immigration that Obama does.

 

[Chiteng]

Is it also your policy to never to make a decent argument?

I have no need to validate your illusions =)

Whatever my arguments are, they remain mine.

 

[_random_]

No. I never give out personal info on the net. NEVER. A policy I recommend to you

Saying your state of residence when it's relevant isn't exactly the same as giving out your social security number.

 

[Chiteng]

He seems to have a policy of spamming posts instead of trying to collect a group of responses together as far as I can tell.

Helpful hint (in all seriousness): The multi button next to the quote button is very helpful.



You expect a direct endorsement? That's a bit foolish.

How about putting the rhetoric aside for a moment and consider the fact that Romney is espousing many of the same ideas wrt immigration that Obama does.

Why? I am a one issue voter. Illegal immigration is that issue.
Romney promised to end infiltration across the border.

It is easily possible that he is lying, BUT, Obama surely has NOT.
So it is a very easy decision to reach

 

[JollyRoger]

Whatever my arguments are, they remain mine.

Hopefully for your sake, that is true - because what you have posted here would not be something to proudly claim as your own.

Anyway, why is the state you live in considered personal information? Are you afraid of being deported or something?

 

[Cutlass]

Possibly, unless enough votes are gained to impeach him

You see the idea that you might obey the will of the citizens is not anathema

Most citizens of the US don't see it as a serious issue. And very few politicians do. It's just squeeky wheel stuff, for the most part.

 

[Chiteng]

Hopefully for your sake, that is true - because what you have posted here would not be something to proudly claim as your own.

Anyway, why is the state you live in considered personal information? Are you afraid of being deported or something?

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The quality of my reply(s) is in direct proportion to the sophistry of the comments.
It is in fact my opinion of the quality of whatever post I decide to reply to.
If you wanted me to debate honestly, then YOU must debate honestly.
Until such a time, learn to live in ignorance

 

[JollyRoger]

Chiteng as been constantly schooled on this. Enforcement and deportations are at record levels under the current administration. For some reason, he wants "enforcement" to go back to the compassionate conservatism of the previous administartion.

 

[Chiteng]

Most citizens of the US don't see it as a serious issue. And very few politicians do. It's just squeeky wheel stuff, for the most part.

Then go back to debating the nebulous

 

[Chiteng]

Chiteng as been constantly schooled on this. Enforcement and deportations are at record levels under the current administration. For some reason, he wants "enforcement" to go back to the compassionate conservatism of the previous administartion.

Not at all. I loathed Bush.
I want to see the same enforcement we saw under Eisenhower

 

[JollyRoger]

Then go back to debating the nebulous

Isn't that you and your claimed state of residence?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Why? I am a one issue voter. Illegal immigration is that issue.
Romney promised to end infiltration across the border.

It is easily possible that he is lying, BUT, Obama surely has NOT.
So it is a very easy decision to reach

lol wut

Infiltration is at the lowest point it's been in a long time. Obama is totally in favor of cutting illegal immigration and has pursued that policy in office. Unfortunately, it's hard to get a whole lot more done without the consent of an obstructionist congress.

But I get that doesn't fit into the narrative of the evil Obama you have going.

We definately need some landmines on the border amirite?

Also more spammy spam goodness please.

 

[JollyRoger]

Not at all. I loathed Bush.
I want to see the same enforcement we saw under Eisenhower

Remember the Alamo?

That was some real enforcement against illegals.

 

[Chiteng]

lol wut

Infiltration is at the lowest point it's been in a while. Obama is totally in favor of cutting illegal immigration and has pursued that policy in office. Unfortunately, it's hard to get a whole lot more done without the consent of an obstructionist congress.

But I get that doesn't fit into the narrative of the evil Obama you have going.

We definately need some landmines on the border amirite?

Obama does NOT need Congress to approve ANYTHING to close the border to infiltration.
He has all the powers he needs to do that.

 

[Chiteng]

Remember the Alamo?

That was some real enforcement against illegals.

Actually, I would have sided with Mexico, had I been asked

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Obama does NOT need Congress to approve ANYTHING to close the border to infiltration.
He has all the powers he needs to do that.

Except money and appropriate laws of course.

 

[JollyRoger]

Actually, I would have sided with Mexico, had I been asked

Explains why you are supporting the son of a Mexican for President.

 

[Cutlass]

Obama does NOT need Congress to approve ANYTHING to close the border to infiltration.
He has all the powers he needs to do that.

He doesn't have either the budget, which is 100% controlled by Congress, or the legal authority to do much different from what is being done now.

 

[Chiteng]

Except money and appropriate laws of course.

He could easily enforce the existing laws and close the border. You dont know what your talking about. Lack of money doesnt seem to be stopping his other initiatives.

There are contingency funds for a variety of issues. All he would need to do is invoke one. Just like Johnson did in the sixties. Sadly he only closed it for one week.

 

[Quackers]

The Speech that won the election - if your a dummy.

Meh, watched the video and it's basically a rehash of all the criticisms of Romney over the past 2 years. I think it's an effective speech and it gets to the heart of the matter, but i don't think its got the power to win the election or not,