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The Thread Where We Discuss Guns and Gun Control

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lemon Merchant, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    "Society" is built on grains, beans, potatoes, rice, corn and other carby'licious crops, and animals that eat the cheapest feed we can give them... always has been and maybe always will be. You don't need "something sturdy" to build a society, you need something people can eat. "Society" is controlled from the Ivory (Marble/Stone/Steel/Glass) tower... always has been and maybe always will be, because Control, on the other hand... takes a big damn scary impressive building;)

    And yes talking about things doesn't always have to be "on the clock" sometimes it can be pals bouncing ideas off each other and having a virtual beer together :beer: to just learn things and have good conversation.
     
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  2. Farm Boy

    Farm Boy The trees are actually quite lovely.

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    Oh I don't know. I don't think you get to grow the grains, or beans, or potatoes, or rice, or corn, nor do you craft the projectiles and fences to get the game, unless you can achieve an accord. And an accord is built off the exchange of ideas. Don't sell the pillars short!
     
  3. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    I think this is one of the saddest things I've ever read on here and I'm sorry our fellow citizens make you feel like this.
     
  5. Broken_Erika

    Broken_Erika Nothing

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  6. rah

    rah Deity Supporter

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    The same reason Tim Allen used to say MORE POWER.
     
  7. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    In the land where heroic good guys with a gun are confronting the evil doers the level of paranoia is so high that the stopping power of a single bullet may not be sufficient to quell their fears. As @Sommerswerd points out, he needed to deal with people reacting to him as if he were a wolf, or a rattlesnake, but in the modern fear inflated world some people think of him more like a charging rhinoceros, or raging bull elephant.
     
  8. Farm Boy

    Farm Boy The trees are actually quite lovely.

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  9. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    They say what I said, only they are serious. Stopping power, for when one .45 hollow point slug at a time just might not be enough.
     
  10. EgonSpengler

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    iirc, the Newcomers in Alien Nation had two hearts. I think Klingons do, too.
     
  11. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    At this point in my life, I have a perfectly fine justification for wearing a suit/shirt and tie everyday... Imagine a polar bear with a shirt, pants and tie on... way less threatening right? Instead of thinking OMG wherearemyhollowpointbullets?!?:eek:... they're thinking... Oh how nice, that bear must be domesticated/part of some show, I'm sure he's quite tame :D

    However... my sons have no such justification to dress in suits and ties... so its back to "OMG A TIGER!!!":run: for them :sad:
     
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  12. Farm Boy

    Farm Boy The trees are actually quite lovely.

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    That sounds like a pretty good reason that doesn't need separately justified.
     
  13. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    Meanwhile, in my former hometown, another 'good guy with a gun' is being celebrated for killing a robbery suspect. Two men entered an internet cafe at 12:45 AM and attempted to rob it. One was shot and killed by the security guard and the other fled. Responses are immediate, and vehement.

    The 'crime is running rampant, arm yourselves!' crowd is of course pointing to this as a prime example of how random violence can turn up anywhere, at any time.

    The 'all suspected criminals should be shot without trial' crowd is rallying to the heroic security guard at a frenetic pace, mixed indiscriminately with the 'they were black so a trial is certainly not necessary' crowd.

    So, here are the interesting things to know:

    There was no randomness here. The "internet cafe" that is open all night is actually an off book casino.

    The "security guard" may or may not have an actual guard card allowing him to be officially employed as an armed security guard. If he does then he violated the terms of issue by accepting employment in a criminal enterprise. It is far more likely that he is an unlicensed hired thug.

    Shooting all suspects without trial would have left the entire premises without any sign of life, since everyone there was either an operator or a patron of an illegal enterprise.

    There is a very high probability that EVERYONE involved; operators, patrons, "security guard" and "robbers" are all the same race.
     
  14. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    C'mon man. Everyone knows that black men only wear suit jackets to hide a shoulder rig on their way to a crime scene.
     
  15. rah

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    C'mon man. Almost every VP of personnel at large companies wears a suit. Or is female and then wears a pants suit.
     
  16. Commodore

    Commodore Technology of Peace

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    Meh, it's just a gimmick. A collector's item that someone with too much disposable income and a love for exotic, weird, or rare firearms will buy just to say they have it.
     
  17. Berzerker

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    https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/04/ny-lawmaker-want-a-gun-give-us-your-soci

    Typical demagogue... How can you dare oppose my PATRIOT ACT?

    Clearly the goal of such a law is to weed out the psychos but the effect will be to deter people in general. If you want a gun - in this case apparently long or shot guns - you will need to let Uncle Sam read your rants on the internet.

    While I'm sympathetic I dont want our rights depending on how a bureaucrat interprets our levels of hate nor do I want the state finding out about my deviancy just so I can own a gun. Interesting 1st Amendment implications...
     
  18. Lexicus

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    I fail to see how deterring people in general from purchasing guns is a bad thing.
     
  19. PPQ_Purple

    PPQ_Purple Techpriest Engineer

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    Me neither. And although I do see issues with the general breach of privacy involved here from my perspective it's not so much the government being oppressive as it is the government going through contortions trying to eek out at least a little big of sensible gun control in a hostile environment.
     
  20. tetley

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    Thank you for raising this issue. This bill is complete government overreach. Americans should not have to consent to have the government review our social media accounts for any reason.

    Plus there's the law of unintended consequences: you would be having law enforcement reviewing my social media. I have posted plenty about my opinions on law enforcement, and they are not high. And they are the ones who give the go-ahead. What absolute crap. Pure unadulterated police state.
     
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