The very many questions-not-worth-their-own-thread question thread XXIV

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Thanks. Yeah, the varying day length was actually another part of my wondering about this. For instance, if Muslim astronauts land on Venus (which obviously isn't going to happen within the century, or even the next one, but just bear with me) due to the fact that the Venusian day is 200+ Earth days, do they just pray at Venusian sunrise, midday, sunset, etc. I'm assuming that they'd just use UTC or something but it's an interesting question nonetheless.
 
Islam: the only religion where knowledge of astrophysics may be a prerequisite for praying properly. :D

Anyway, would it be accurate to designate India as the foremost expert on mountain warfare in the world, considering they have had decades of experience?
 
No idea Southern King. I assume that regardless of the length of the day/night cycle on the planet or moon they are on, they will try to stick to an artificial 24 hour rythm. I am sure they only pray 5 times/day on the ISS for instance, because they do maintain the 24hr circadian rythm up there.

The one place where this would be off is Mars. The day is ~24.5hrs long there so they would adjust to,that rathering than trying to keep a strict 24hr rythm there. Still, I don't expect the extra half hour would change their prayer cycles, they would just kind of ignore it and sleep through it.

Mr. Satan - the US has tons more mountain fighting experience from Afghanistan than India at this point. And the Taliban, as our sparring partner, gets a nod as well.
 
India has had multiple wars with Pakistan over Kashmir since over a half-century ago, though.
 
Yes they have. How much does military spending figure in though (extensive training, specialized equipment, etc). I am sure they are quite good at it but the US and the Taliban have been at it for a decade and on one side you have a massive industrial warfighting machine and the other you have resourceful guerilla fighters making the best of nothing. India is somewhere in between and I am not sure but I don't think they have had a mountain war of this scale in a while. :dunno:

Current fighting experience counts a ton - look how handily the Vietnamese took on the Chinese in the seventies after having decades of experience against the US and French and Australians.
 
Well, I know airlines based out of the Mid-East have the largest collection of Boeing 777's (mainly the -200LR "Worldliner" series -- the plane with the absolute longest-range of any plane ever with a range of 9,380 nautical miles), and they usually fly 15 to 20/22 hour flights. So any ideas how that factors into Islamic prayers?
 
Well, I know airlines based out of the Mid-East have the largest collection of Boeing 777's (mainly the -200LR "Worldliner" series -- the plane with the absolute longest-range of any plane ever with a range of 9,380 nautical miles), and they usually fly 15 to 20/22 hour flights. So any ideas how that factors into Islamic prayers?


B-52
Ferry range: 10,145 mi (8,764 nmi, 16,232 km)

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B-52 versus 777??
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(I have no idea about your question, PE. Maybe they have a modified prayer ritual that takes into account limited physical-space concerns. Maybe they don't bother. :dunno:)
 
Didn't Boeing design the bombers anyway?

B-17, B-29, B-52
 
Hmm, it's not worthy of Cheezy's ask a red thread, so I'll put it here. Could a commie still be a commie if said commie weren't Godless?
 
On my recent Etihad flight(s), the flight tracker display always indicated the direction of Mecca. Though I'm not sure if there was any actual prayer space.
 
Anyway, would it be accurate to designate India as the foremost expert on mountain warfare in the world, considering they have had decades of experience?
Decades of experience? Sure. But their means of institutionalizing that experience are inadequate, and since the Kashmir situation has never absorbed the majority of the Indian military, only a very small portion of the organization has had the ability to directly develop that experience.

One could make the same claim for, for instance, the RDF, given its extensive experience in mountain warfare in the Great Lakes region and in the Kivus, but despite the tremendous amount of experience the Rwandese have accumulated, American visitors to Kigali throughout the 1990s and 2000s have made the comment that they still had to disseminate lessons learned in a systematic way throughout the organization. Individual soldiers, like eventual President Kagame, or eventual Chief of Staff Kabarebe, could very easily be described as adept officers in their own milieu, but they were not representative of the RPA/RDF's military leadership. Also, attrition in RPA/RDF units was pretty high, especially during the second war, so many of the officers with experience were, ah, taken out of the system.

In any event, experience in a certain kind of conflict is only one piece of the readiness puzzle.
 
Hmm, it's not worthy of Cheezy's ask a red thread, so I'll put it here. Could a commie still be a commie if said commie weren't Godless?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

I mean, among Marxists and like folks I guess there will always be disagreement about that sort of thing because of Marx's own views of religion and the state-enforced atheism taken up by most Marxists governments but there are certainly theists of many stripes who take up the label of "communist."
 
Well, I know airlines based out of the Mid-East have the largest collection of Boeing 777's (mainly the -200LR "Worldliner" series -- the plane with the absolute longest-range of any plane ever with a range of 9,380 nautical miles), and they usually fly 15 to 20/22 hour flights. So any ideas how that factors into Islamic prayers?

On my recent Etihad flight(s), the flight tracker display always indicated the direction of Mecca. Though I'm not sure if there was any actual prayer space.

Yeah, Emirates (IIRC) also displays the direction to Mecca and also has an indicator that suggests praying times.
 
Hmm, it's not worthy of Cheezy's ask a red thread, so I'll put it here. Could a commie still be a commie if said commie weren't Godless?

Godless, yes. Religionless, probably less likely. There's no problem with the belief in the existence of a Higher Being, in a philosophical or deist sort of sense. Hell, there's not even that much of a problem with religion As A Thing, the problem is with how religion is used and what its message does to the otherwise revolutionary potential of an oppressed people. Marx referred to religion as "the opiate of the masses" because its social effect was similar to the physical effect opium has on the body - to dull pain and make one slothful. Because of the common message of religions that tolerance of temporal evils is temporary, because greater, infinite spiritual rewards await, religion creates a way for the masses to "dull the pain" of poverty and oppression by giving them the mental fortitude to put up with evils that would otherwise motivate people to do something about the evils that surround them who believe that this is the only world in which we we get to exist.

As Cutlass said, the moral model of the Judean Carpenter is one that most communists can appreciate. And there are of course models of communist thinking in many religions, such as the waqf in Islamic law and the kibbutzim which Zionist Jews formed in Palestine.

Here are a few select quotes from Christian theologians which make reference to a communist morality:

"You hoard your wealth, and do not bother to look upon those who are worn and oppressed by necessity! You will say to me: “How am I doing wrong if I hoard what belongs to me?” And I ask you: “What are the things that you think belong to you? From whom did you receive them? You act like someone who goes to a theatre, and having sat in the seats that others might have taken, tries to stop everyone else from coming in, taking for himself what should have been used by everyone.” And so it is with the rich, who having been the first to gain what should be common to all, keep it for themselves and hold onto it. If everyone took only what he needed, and gave the rest to those in need, there would be neither rich nor poor. " - St. Basil of Caesarea

"We are called upon at the beginning of the 20th century to decide the question propounded in the Sermon on the Mount, as to whether we will worship God or Mammon. The present day is a Mammon worshipping age. Socialism proposes to dethrone the brute god Mammon and to lift humanity into its place. I beg to submit, in this very imperfect fashion, the resolution on the paper, merely promising that the last has not been heard the Socialist movement either in the country or on the floor of this House, but that, just as sure as radicalism democratised the system of government politically in the last century, so will socialism democratise the country industrially during this century upon which we just entered." - Keir Hardie
 
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