The Very Many Questions-Not-Worth-Their-Own-Thread Thread ΛΓ

[Lexicus]

It sounds almost as if Jay isn't blaming the poverty of black people on white supremacy. You think that would pass muster at a BLM meeting?

Oooh wow gotcha, I guess BLM should disband now

 

[Mouthwash]

No, I'm just saying that it's unusual for leftists to reject zero-sum identity politics.

 

[Arakhor]

Moderator Action: Please stop this tired political hemisphering before it even gets started again.

 

[sophie]

It sounds almost as if Jay isn't blaming the poverty of black people on white supremacy. You think that would pass muster at a BLM meeting?

It sounds almost as if Jay isn't blaming the poverty of black people on white supremacy. You think that would pass muster at a BLM meeting?

I mean, he kind of is? He's saying that no matter what the black man does, the white man will never give him a seat at the table, so we as a race are better off rejecting white society altogether. If you watch the music video, it's also clear that he's ascribing the origins of the systemic racism, oppression, exploitation, and generational poverty to white supremacy.

*EDIT* saw the mod announcement post facto. I'm done talking about this.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Is Sam Rockwell a scientologist? For some reason I think he is but I can't find a definitive answer.

 

[Mouthwash]

Sorry, that was bait I couldn't pass up. But it won't happen again. Pinky swear.

Sounds like our lips are getting sunburned. Go for a chapstick with an SPF rating. Also see if this is a side effect of a medication you are taking.

Nope, it's definitely not due to the sun. It could be lack of humidity (I do live in a desert), but I recall having this problem for years.

I also lip pick. Don't know how to stop, or if I even should. Isn't it the proper response to chapped lips?

 

[Synobun]

General rule of thumb is that if you really want to pick at it, you probably shouldn't. I'm guilty of doing it too. When you can just feel the jagged edges, you want to rip it off. Naturally. But you shouldn't.

I have the chapped lip problem when I drink only water. When that happens I dab some coconut oil on my lips while in the shower. The humidity helps (or I feel it does, anecdotally) and the taste (if you don't like it) is gone by the time you get out because the excess will have been washed off at that point.

If it's windy out, I'll also put on some Burt's Beeswax lip balm.

 

[Cutlass]

Meh. I prefer Fred Hampton's formulation:

See, this is pretty much the same as what Owen was describing JayZ as saying. Given a choice to invest in your kids, or your communities, future, you burn it down for current consumption instead. Going to socialism may give you the pleasure of revenge now. but does nothing for your children's future. No more than spending your money on strippers does.

 

[Lexicus]

See, this is pretty much the same as what Owen was describing JayZ as saying. Given a choice to invest in your kids, or your communities, future, you burn it down for current consumption instead. Going to socialism may give you the pleasure of revenge now. but does nothing for your children's future. No more than spending your money on strippers does.

Uh, what do you understand by socialism? Socialism is investing in your community (not your kids, that's a hereditary aristocracy and we don't need that BS because this is America). Socialism is a political-economic structure that tends to ensure that investments in the community are made all the time instead of just when unaccountable elites feel like it. Much like parliamentary democracy tends to institutionalize good governance instead of making it the chance result of a good hereditary monarch.

 

[Cutlass]

Uh, what do you understand by socialism? Socialism is investing in your community (not your kids, that's a hereditary aristocracy and we don't need that BS because this is America). Socialism is a political-economic structure that tends to ensure that investments in the community are made all the time instead of just when unaccountable elites feel like it. Much like parliamentary democracy tends to institutionalize good governance instead of making it the chance result of a good hereditary monarch.

There's an awful lot of problems in debate when not using terms right. Socialism is not social democracy, which is capitalism with a strong social safety net. Socialism is the replacement of capitalism with a different economic system which is not market based and private owned. Socialism replaces extravagance for some, comfort for most, and poverty for far too many with subsistence for all. Now in the short run that gives revenge against the wealthy. But in the long run it's your own grandchildren who pay the biggest price. For they'll never have anything more than subsistence.

 

[Lexicus]

Socialism is the replacement of capitalism with a different economic system which is not market based and private owned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism

I think you're the one using terms wrong. In any case the idea that socialism or any other system is "totalizing" in this fashion is completely wrong. Socialism and capitalism, and many other systems, can coexist in the same society. No society is entirely reliant on the market to distribute resources, and hardly any societies do entirely without markets to distribute resources. In any case socialism is perfectly compatible with private ownership and markets. Socialism is, broadly, the subjection of economic decisions to social motives. Those motives can be democratic, as in the social democracies of the United States and northwest Europe, or anti-democratic, as in the USSR and Third Reich. What matters is not the existence of markets or private ownership but whether markets are controlled by capitalists for the benefit of capitalists. That is capitalism.

For they'll never have anything more than subsistence.

This wasn't even true in the most of the Marxist-Leninist iterations of "socialism".

 

[Mouthwash]

Is there a noticeable difference reading literary figures and philosophers in their own languages? I'd sure like to see what Nietzsche is like in German.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Is there a noticeable difference reading literary figures and philosophers in their own languages? I'd sure like to see what Nietzsche is like in German.

I kinda remember hearing that "Don Quijote" contains a lot of spanish wordplay that the translations to other languages don't capture
so there's one example, I guess

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Is there a noticeable difference reading literary figures and philosophers in their own languages? I'd sure like to see what Nietzsche is like in German.

Translations tend to lose some of the nuances that can only be experienced in the original language. When one language has words for some concept but that concept doesn't exist in another language, you can only have an approximation if you can't read the original language.

That's something one of my typing clients mentioned one evening when we were going over one of her anthropology papers. She was having trouble expressing some of the things she wanted to say because her first language is Cree and the concepts she wanted to discuss don't exist in English.

It's even that way when you read modern translations of Old and Middle English works. Some of the subtleties of Shakespeare are lost on us now because of how some words were pronounced differently 400 years ago.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I kinda remember hearing that "Don Quijote" contains a lot of spanish wordplay that the translations to other languages don't capture
so there's one example, I guess

The question that that immediately brings to mind is whether such wordplay would be understood by someone with an acquired moderate command of the language. I know people who are certainly functional in English but "don't get the joke" in a whole lot of cases when a play on words is involved.

 

[Live trash can]

In what country or tribe or region or similar did Human Rights first arise?

 

[Traitorfish]

There's an awful lot of problems in debate when not using terms right. Socialism is not social democracy, which is capitalism with a strong social safety net.

There's a certain tragedy, I think, to the appropriation of twentieth century social democracy by people who are fundamentally opposed to social democracy from the right. It's a tragedy largely of the social democrats' own making, but none the less, they genuinely believed that a world without rich or poor was not only desirable but achievable, that was actually within our grasp, and now they're used as a cudgel to beat that ambition on the grounds that if they don't want a revolution, they must have been fundamentally okay with capitalism. It's a shame.

No, I'm just saying that it's unusual for leftists to reject zero-sum identity politics.

Jay Z is on the left?

 

[Hrothbern]

In what country or tribe or region or similar did Human Rights first arise?

The tribe: the intellectual and enlightened elite of France and the US.

But if I consider the thunderous reaction in 1790 of the British Conservative Edmund Burke on the French declaration of 1789: "We are not the converts of Rousseau"
and if you talk about emerging before actual texts..... one could very well say that it emerged in France.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Is there a way to keep my lips from constantly peeling without having to put on some weird chapstick five times a day? (I use Propolis.)

Kiss more.

 

[Lexicus]

Jay Z is on the left?

Yeah, he's on our side.