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hobbsyoyo said:
TIL the Netherlands had these cool little wagon carts that daycares and schools used to pick up and deliver children. They were poorly wired with inadequate brakes and 12 kids + a driver were killed in an accident. They are banned now.

https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45717871?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ==#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45717871

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Well... there is some serious doubt that the decision of the government was correct.
Despite that the design could be better, should have been better (a more simple emergency stop), should have been tackled by the normal rigorous saftety tests, before such a vehicle is admitted to the public roads.

Our most senior safety official, who normally stays far away from anything political, reacted on the decision of the government by giving an interview on it stating that it would made sense to set up a fund for financially compensating financial victims of wrong government decisions of this kind (like in this case all the daycares pushed to higher cost and the company).
The technical investigation continues...
 
Hrothbern said:
Well... there is some serious doubt that the decision of the government was correct.
Despite that the design could be better, should have been better (a more simple emergency stop), should have been tackled by the normal rigorous saftety tests, before such a vehicle is admitted to the public roads.

Our most senior safety official, who normally stays far away from anything political, reacted on the decision of the government by giving an interview on it stating that it would made sense to set up a fund for financially compensating financial victims of wrong government decisions of this kind (like in this case all the daycares pushed to higher cost and the company).
The technical investigation continues...
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Some serious doubt? I should hope so, since the government's wild knee jerk response is obviously just plain stupid. Yes, the accident reveals a flaw in the design. So expect the company to improve their design. Improve regulations about testing products before marketing products. Ban this product outright just because it demonstrated by accident that it had a flaw, while not even considering what that means for other products, is flat stupid.

Example. I drop my blue coffee cup, which breaks, and I step on a shard and cut my foot. If my response tomorrow is to put my coffee in a red cup made of the same material and walk barefoot from the kitchen to my desk just like I did today, all the while congratulating myself for having banned dangerous blue things from my life, just how stupid am I?
 
hobbsyoyo said:
TIL the Netherlands had these cool little wagon carts that daycares and schools used to pick up and deliver children. They were poorly wired with inadequate brakes and 12 kids + a driver were killed in an accident. They are banned now.

https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45717871?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ==#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45717871

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So they need a few improvements. Get busy! I approve of such carts.
 
Timsup2nothin said:
Some serious doubt? I should hope so, since the government's wild knee jerk response is obviously just plain stupid. Yes, the accident reveals a flaw in the design. So expect the company to improve their design. Improve regulations about testing products before marketing products. Ban this product outright just because it demonstrated by accident that it had a flaw, while not even considering what that means for other products, is flat stupid.

Example. I drop my blue coffee cup, which breaks, and I step on a shard and cut my foot. If my response tomorrow is to put my coffee in a red cup made of the same material and walk barefoot from the kitchen to my desk just like I did today, all the while congratulating myself for having banned dangerous blue things from my life, just how stupid am I?
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kneejerk indeed.
What you say was also my immediate reaction after I heard all the technic info so far known :)
But that would never be the way the majority of the Dutch public will express an opinion this incident.
Saying "I do not like" or "having serious doubts" is our unpolarised Dutch way :p
And yes... it will all take some time... and the daycare centres will send the invoices for all hired transports to the government, just like that company.

Quad bikes are for sure more dangerous.
Here how we transport our kids when we travel by bicycle, and have more than 1 or 2 kids, .
And yes, accidents happen there as well... and no government secretary will dare to forbid parents driving like that.
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Til the oldest law still in force in Ireland is the Fairs Act of 1204
 
Hrothbern said:
smile
kneejerk indeed.
What you say was also my immediate reaction after I heard all the technic info so far known :)
But that would never be the way the majority of the Dutch public will express an opinion this incident.
Saying "I do not like" or "having serious doubts" is our unpolarised Dutch way :p
And yes... it will all take some time... and the daycare centres will send the invoices for all hired transports to the government, just like that company.

Quad bikes are for sure more dangerous.
Here how we transport our kids when we travel by bicycle, and have more than 1 or 2 kids, .
And yes, accidents happen there as well... and no government secretary will dare to forbid parents driving like that.
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These are the kind i see most often, they also great for moving stuff.
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TIL Neneh Cherry is Swedish.
 
hobbsyoyo said:
Also today I learned Google Chrome can auto translate whole webpages. Or maybe that was just a feature of a specific webpage?
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It can do some pages and can't do others, not sure why that is but I'm pretty sure it is a feature of the browser. There must be some code or something the webpage needs to make it possible for the browser to do it though.
 
TIL: The reason flammable and inflammable mean the same thing is that "inflammable" came first, but the people who made warning labels thought their consumers might think "inflammable" meant fireproof, and shortened the word.

Daisies was originally "day's eyes," because daisies open during the day and close at night.

Tuxedo is the Native American Lenape word for "crooked river," and is only associated with clothing because the style became popular in Tuxedo Park, New York.
 
HoloDoc said:
Daisies was originally "day's eyes," because daisies open during the day and close at night.
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In Dutch it is "madeliefje" coming from maagd and lief, or in English virgin and loving, in honor of Maria.
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Which was the christianising of that flower that originally in Germanic culture was the symbol of Freya (Nordic goddess fertility, love, sex, war), Ostara (German goddess spring) and first mentioned in Sumer as symbol for Isthar (goddess fertility, love, sex, war)

Ostara is still there as goddess of spring in the words Eastern and Ostern (German). The more christian/jewish word pasha/passover did not became common enough to replace the old Germanic word for the spring symbol.
 
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Oh my god, this website I found is awesome. You know what penguins used to be called?

Arse-foots.

ARSE-FOOTS!!!

This is the greatest thing ever. You see, their feet are so far back, they are essentially part of their arse. Hence; arse-foot.

I am a happy man right now.
 
HoloDoc said:
Oh my god, this website I found is awesome. You know what penguins used to be called?

Arse-foots.

ARSE-FOOTS!!!

This is the greatest thing ever. You see, their feet are so far back, they are essentially part of their arse. Hence; arse-foot.

I am a happy man right now.
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Link ?
 
TIL that we have a law here in Ontario that clarifies that when you say "I'm sorry" you are not admitting guilt, you are just saying you're sorry. This is in contrast to many other places (specifically the U.S. I think?) where saying sorry can be construed as being a legal admission of guilt.

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/09a03&pm=pd
 
Lohrenswald said:
that seems to me intuitively to be a good thing
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From what I understand it was a problem.. in that it was causing unnecessary extra work for the courts.. Plus we have a reputation for saying a sorry a lot here.. I have no idea if that's true or not honestly, but either way this prevents the courts from having to deal with: "He apologized, so he's on the hook for this" type stuff, which I guess was coming up just too frequently. Now they just point to the law and move on.
 
Today I learned that there's a Kansas City...in Missouri. There's also another Kansas City that's actually in Kansas. I want to know whose idea this was.
 
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