warpus
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Aren't they the same city, split in two by a state border?
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aimeeandbeatles
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Yeah apparently it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_metropolitan_area
Now I feel stupid.
Now I feel stupid.
It looks separate in maps. I noticed this in school, decades ago, and wondered the same thing as you. No Wikipedia in my day, so I was confused for a long time.
warpus
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I wouldn't feel so bad, I used to think that Arkansas was founded by pirates who were living in Kansas City and left.
As far as Kansas City goes, it seems it would be a lot easier to administer the city if it were all in one state. But I assume neither state wants to give up any land or whatever
BenitoChavez
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In terms of government and administration and all that it's considered two different cities. In terms of geographic area it is essentially one city.
It's not terribly uncommon for places in the US to be named after states. For example there is a New York, Texas and a Texas, New York. Even New York, New York is confusing enough.
It's not terribly uncommon for places in the US to be named after states. For example there is a New York, Texas and a Texas, New York. Even New York, New York is confusing enough.
warpus
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The difference is that all of New York City resides in the state of New York. (Correct me if I'm wrong). The confusion here is that we have a city named after a state that's in another state. So it'd be like you crossing a bridge from NYC, NY to New Jersey, and seeing a sign that says: "Welcome to New York City, New Jersey"
Don't they have the Simpsons in Australia?
You don't want another war, do you?
I knew flammable and inflammable meant the same thing, I just didn't know the origin.
warpus
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I do have a big pet peeve about cities split in two due to a province or state line not having a public transit system that spans the whole city. Which is 100% the case in North America from my experience
Chukchi Husky
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"Inflammable means flammable?" comes from the Season 12 episode Trilogy of Error, six seasons after Bart vs. Australia.
Not to worry. There are people who get confused about Lloydminster.
It's on the border between Alberta and Saskatchewan.
We have a city split between two states in Australia: Albury-Wodonga. It is split between New South Wales, my home state, and Victoria. The difference in state governments is literally visible to the naked eye; upon crossing the bridge into Victoria, the bridge actually becomes cleaner, and is made of superior construction materials at the halfway point. Wodonga, the southern half, also smells better, in spite of the fact that it is next to the same foul-smelling river as Albury on the northern side. Albury also contains the single most violent bar in all of NSW, the Bended Elbow, which reports more assaults in a single weekend than every bar in Wodonga combined... Annually.
The city is increasing in population, yet the population of Albury is decreasing, as residents almost literally flee the NSW Govt. and cross the border to the far superior Victorian side.
The city is increasing in population, yet the population of Albury is decreasing, as residents almost literally flee the NSW Govt. and cross the border to the far superior Victorian side.
I can top that. Officially the megalopolis I live in is split between a homonymous city and province; the province part is further subdivided into several counties, some of which have millions of inhabitants, which gives its local eternal rulers (nicknamed ‘the barons’, lasting decades on average) enormous political power.
So it is about 20 executive units and three sets of legislation applying across most parts of this humungous civitas.
So it is about 20 executive units and three sets of legislation applying across most parts of this humungous civitas.
London or Tokyo?
But one of your descendants could be Jonny Rico, of Starship Troopers. Worth it.
Germany also has at least one instance of such a split (probably more), but it's a tad bit older.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neu-Ulm Neu-Ulm apparently got once upon a time separated from Ulm, because parts of the area changed from one lord to another one, and there's a river in the middle between them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neu-Ulm Neu-Ulm apparently got once upon a time separated from Ulm, because parts of the area changed from one lord to another one, and there's a river in the middle between them.
There are actually many cities that have the same name as another state
The most obvious being the city name of Washington appears in 26 different states.
The second most numerous is a bit more surprising.
The are many that appear in 4 different state.
Yes, I am a data rat.
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Wyoming Iowa
Wyoming Michigan
Wyoming Minnesota
Wyoming New York
Wyoming Pennsylvania
Wyoming Rhode Island
Wyoming West Virginia
Timsup2nothin
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You aren't wrong, but what you're pointing out is that the only thing strange about Kansas City is the naming. Newark, New Jersey, is just as effectively "the same city" as New York, New York as the two Kansas Cities are the same city. They just opted not to name it New York, New Jersey outright. Then there is the 'add a direction' option. For example East St Louis is in Illinois.
These situations are common in states where the borders were laid down based on rivers, because the major cities in those states are of course on the rivers and therefore right on the border. In the western US most cities are not on the border since the border is just an arbitrary line draw across the landscape.
Lexicus
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Well, I'm not sure about the history of the Kansas Cities, but Newark was not named Newark because they wanted something that sounded like New York but wasn't quite actually New York. It was originally a totally separate town, and it's unclear whether it was named after a town in England called Newark or whether it was a direct reference to "New Ark of the Covenant" because the people who founded it were religious nutjobs. At any rate in 1666 (When Newark NJ was founded) New York City was confined to a tiny bit of southern Manhattan, they didn't start just across the river from each other or anything like that.
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