Tom Perez Elected DNC Chair

[Sommerswerd]

What's really funny is Tim has been describing things in exactly those terms for over a year...

 

[onejayhawk]

Do you think none of us notice how it went from "motivator" to "principle [sic] motivator"?

Treat those the same. The motivator was too broad. No one ever has a single motivation. The second, slightly looser one is more correct.

All of this is beside the point. Your obsession with it is the point.

What's really funny is Tim has been describing things in exactly those terms for over a year...

Has he? I tend not to notice what Tim says.

J

 

[Sommerswerd]

I notice everyone... fake ignoring is mental/emotional weakness/cowardice... come at me bro is what I say

 

[Lexicus]

Treat those the same.

English, ************, do you speak it?!

Spoiler :

 

[metalhead]

Treat those the same. The motivator was too broad. No one ever has a single motivation. The second, slightly looser one is more correct.
J

It's time you understand that racism is nothing more than a straw man. It is not that it is not real but that it has not been a motivator for generations.

J

You're still doing it. Why do you have so much trouble just being straight and standing behind things you say? Everything with you is an attempt to try to wriggle out of the ridiculous things you say with obfuscation or subject-changing, or in this case outright lying.

 

[Farm Boy]

I notice everyone... fake ignoring is mental/emotional weakness/cowardice... come at me bro is what I say

Eh. Some of that is learning to get along in any community. I pretend not to hear something that pisses me off, smile, and change the subject. Happens all the time in life, women are often particularly good at it. I don't think the source is cowardice.

 

[onejayhawk]

You're still doing it. Why do you have so much trouble just being straight and standing behind things you say? Everything with you is an attempt to try to wriggle out of the ridiculous things you say with obfuscation or subject-changing, or in this case outright lying.

Say what? I started by saying it was not the only issue, then backed off slightly to say it was not the foremost issue. What is unclear about that?

J

 

[Lexicus]

Say what? I started by saying it was not the only issue, then backed off slightly to say it was not the foremost issue. What is unclear about that?

No, you started by saying it was not an issue, then backed off to say it wasn't an important issue.

 

[onejayhawk]

No, you started by saying it was not an issue, then backed off to say it wasn't an important issue.

To be exact, I said, "There is no 'ceaseless, unrepentant racism by the right' or by anyone else." That inset quotation is your words.

I also said that you were evading the point. It is not what Republicans do or do not do. The point is your obsession with something of secondary or tertiary importance. It's one thing to cry racism when there is a racism. It's a very different thing to cry racism when someone claims you have the time wrong. You are much closer to the second than the first.

J

 

[metalhead]

Say what? I started by saying it was not the only issue, then backed off slightly to say it was not the foremost issue. What is unclear about that?

J

Once again, for the third time now:

It's time you understand that racism is nothing more than a straw man. It is not that it is not real but that it has not been a motivator for generations.

J

Emphasis mine. There is nothing unclear about this statement at all. You said, right here, to me, that racism hasn't motivated people for generations. My issue isn't that your statement lacked clarity, my issue is that it's a stunningly ignorant thing for a person to say. You've since tried to totally recast your position as being something else. Problem is, your posting history indicates that this is easily the closest match to what you truly believe.

 

[Lexicus]

I also said that you were evading the point. It is not what Republicans do or do not do. The point is your obsession with something of secondary or tertiary importance. It's one thing to cry racism when there is a racism. It's a very different thing to cry racism when someone claims you have the time wrong. You are much closer to the second than the first.

@Sommerswerd he's going on about windmills again
I'm scared

 

[onejayhawk]

Once again, for the third time now:

Emphasis mine. There is nothing unclear about this statement at all. You said, right here, to me, that racism hasn't motivated people for generations. My issue isn't that your statement lacked clarity, my issue is that it's a stunningly ignorant thing for a person to say. You've since tried to totally recast your position as being something else. Problem is, your posting history indicates that this is easily the closest match to what you truly believe.

Which is why it was amended down. This is where the "secondary and tertiary" come in. Do you pick at trivia to specifically so you don't have to address the point?

J

 

[metalhead]

Addressing this subject with you is utterly pointless given your ignorance about it. You're trying to call it an "amendement," but you're completely changing around what you originally said as if you meant something else, but we can clearly see what you meant from the beginning.

 

[JollyRoger]

When did racism end?

Generations ago.

I think you have the time wrong.

 

[Gori the Grey]

English, ************, do you speak it?!

I counted your asterisks.

When did racism end?

Generations ago.

I think you have the time wrong.

I think this is the best post I've seen from you in my years of admiring your posts.

 

[JollyRoger]

A three liner is a challenge for one used to dispatching one liners.

 

[Gori the Grey]

I hope some day I disagree with you on some point, so we can get into a limerick vs one-liner battle.

 

[onejayhawk]

Addressing this subject with you is utterly pointless given your ignorance about it. You're trying to call it an "amendement," but you're completely changing around what you originally said as if you meant something else, but we can clearly see what you meant from the beginning.

You do not exhibit any sign of understanding. Instead, you harp on irrelevancies.

From the top. Lexicus statement, "ceaseless, unrepentant racism displayed by the right" is BS. He is tilting at a strawman. You are searching for a dropped wallet near the streetlight, because the light is better. Good luck with that.

J

 

[Sommerswerd]

"Tilting" is done at windmills and poker and pinball machines... not strawmen... just sayin'

 

[Lexicus]

Lexicus statement, "ceaseless, unrepentant racism displayed by the right"

Can you use the forum's quote feature to quote me on this?