Yeah, and those guys were both awesome. Vauban (general for Louis XIV in Spanish Succession, League of Augsburg, and many other wars) was actually the greatest authority on sieges of all time. France has produced some excellent military minds, some of whom are not technically French.
I remember this funny thing I read in a military history book a long time ago. In the 1740s, the French and Brits were fighting at the Battle of Fontenoy. A British captain was waiting for his men to form up for a charge, and strode out into the middle of the battlefield with a whiskey bottle in his hand. The fusillade of French firing stopped, and the Brit reportedly asked the French to "fire first". Other lines attributed include something about making the French swim over the Scheldt just like they had escaped across the Main earlier in the campaign. Then, the British redcoats started cheering and saluting the French.
The understandably-confused French returned the cheer and salute, at which point the British started firing and charged the French lines. They managed to capture the French fortifications but were eventually thrown back by the French Marshal Saxe. Still, it's a great story...
I remember this funny thing I read in a military history book a long time ago. In the 1740s, the French and Brits were fighting at the Battle of Fontenoy. A British captain was waiting for his men to form up for a charge, and strode out into the middle of the battlefield with a whiskey bottle in his hand. The fusillade of French firing stopped, and the Brit reportedly asked the French to "fire first". Other lines attributed include something about making the French swim over the Scheldt just like they had escaped across the Main earlier in the campaign. Then, the British redcoats started cheering and saluting the French.
The understandably-confused French returned the cheer and salute, at which point the British started firing and charged the French lines. They managed to capture the French fortifications but were eventually thrown back by the French Marshal Saxe. Still, it's a great story...