UFOs

At least I hope you aren't arguing that those techs are somehow turkish. :)

I would also think that certainly it should be easy to run tests to at least establish if what you are seeing has mass or not, even if for some reason you can't get authorization to fire at it.
 
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Those planes with no wings are freaking me out, man... :twitch: I like the "Luftpanzer", though. Appears to be based on the Jagdpanther from WWII, which is one of my favorite armored vehicles.
 
There are all sorts of things people think are UFOs. Back in the late '70s I was babysitting the neighbor's kids, and suddenly their other neighbors came running over in a panic. They were absolutely sure there was a UFO in the night sky, and wanted me to confirm that (they knew I was babysitting that night and that even 40+ years ago I was an astronomy buff who regularly went stargazing).

This was in January, so we're talking winter skies. I went outside, looked at where they were pointing, and didn't see a UFO. I told them the night sky looked normal, so where was the UFO?

They pointed at one particular star that was the brightest and they said it kept changing color. That HAD to be a spaceship, right?

Nope. They were just freaking out because Sirius is the brightest star we can see at night, and it often does appear to change colors. But that's due to atmospheric conditions and how Sirius itself is. It's a binary star, really close, extremely bright, and people who aren't into stargazing sometimes think it's some bizarre thing that just has to be a UFO.

They kept saying, "Are you SURE?" and I told them yes, I was absolutely sure that it was just a star, it was behaving as it normally does, and there was nothing to worry about.
 
Those planes with no wings are freaking me out, man... :twitch: I like the "Luftpanzer", though. Appears to be based on the Jagdpanther from WWII, which is one of my favorite armored vehicles.
They are really weird, until you see that they have to fit within the coffee stain :P
 
Advanced US drones ?
The eye witness accounts are quite compelling and interesting. Hovering just above sea level and being able to accelerate at incredible speeds is something that is extremely advanced. The kind of propulsion system capable of something like this is pretty amazing. But it would require much more detailed and exhaustive examination before I would claim them to be Aliens.

Thats quite a leap in drone tech, ours are slow and clumsy. But I did hear a pilot on Joe Rogan say these had to be drones/robots given the G Forces involved. How did Star Trek get around the problem of changing direction at hi speeds? I know what happened to Dark Helmet.

Btw, one of the guys in the military said the stuff we're seeing is the least compelling video from what they have. That makes sense, the Pentagon wont be showing us detailed video of advanced technology no matter who it belongs to. One of those things was apparently ~50 ft away from a plane. I was surprised though when the pilot said they've been seeing these things everyday for a couple years SE of Virginia.

Now ofc if these things do belong to (ancient) aliens they've probably been in contact with us a long time and maybe even moreso since the nuclear age. And if they're interested in resources like the Sumerian 'gods' they've probably been letting us do the gathering and they come by to collect like a Mafia Don. The Sumerians said they wanted gold and created us to mine it. So I think its safe to say these beings dont want us spoiling the situation with an all out nuclear war.

Betty and Barney Hill. We are not discussing cartoons here, or at least I'm not. :huh:

They're just the most recent Betty and Barney, long ago it was the Rubbles

Anyone know of a case where the pilots actually tried to hit one of those ufos?

Shooting at "god" would be unwise

Just because 'we' can't explain it yet, doesn't mean aliens can explain it because it was them.

Those were explanations
 
How did Star Trek get around the problem of changing direction at hi speeds?
Inertial dampers?
Exactly. This is Star Trek 101. Inertial dampers prevent the crew from becoming jelly every time the ship changes direction. Of course there are episodes where the dampers are said to be offline, but that's technobabble that has never been applied consistently.

It's like how fast warp drive really is; the common explanation is that it works at speed of plot. Kinda like how Captain Kirk could get halfway across the galaxy in a few hours, but in Voyager, it's said that it would take 70 years to get from the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant. Funny how Janeway never understood that one of her first steps should have been relaxing the rules about fraternizing and the next step should have been converting the ship to accommodate children. Yet there were only ever three babies onboard: Naomi Wildman, the Borg baby (forgotten before the end of that episode), and Miral Paris.

Now ofc if these things do belong to (ancient) aliens they've probably been in contact with us a long time and maybe even moreso since the nuclear age. And if they're interested in resources like the Sumerian 'gods' they've probably been letting us do the gathering and they come by to collect like a Mafia Don. The Sumerians said they wanted gold and created us to mine it. So I think its safe to say these beings dont want us spoiling the situation with an all out nuclear war.
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Ancient aliens created us to mine gold for them?

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Okay, let's see the evidence for this. Not silly stories or pictures on rocks. Actual PROOF.

They're just the most recent Betty and Barney, long ago it was the Rubbles
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A quick Google tells me there were only two years' difference. Betty and Barney Rubble first appeared in 1959, and Betty and Barney Hill (real people, not cartoon characters) claimed, in 1961, that they were abducted by aliens. There's not a shred of evidence to support that claim.
 
Those planes with no wings are freaking me out, man... :twitch: I like the "Luftpanzer", though. Appears to be based on the Jagdpanther from WWII, which is one of my favorite armored vehicles.

in case you haven't been there yet , the pictures should have full artist names on them to reach his gallery , but his what-if about some Tesla type breakthrough really concentrates on planes .

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/q9LJBz should be the jagdthing post .
 
and then it has been supposed 200 000 tons has been the amount of gold yet mined by mankind . 10000 years or what , all the bloodbath and mankind's basic greed , especially for gold , makes me think those ancient astronauts don't know much about anything ...
 
and then it has been supposed 200 000 tons has been the amount of gold yet mined by mankind . 10000 years or what , all the bloodbath and mankind's basic greed , especially for gold , makes me think those ancient astronauts don't know much about anything ...

This is based on Zecharia Sitchin's interpretations of Mesopotamian texts but they need the gold for their atmosphere. Then again, he might be wrong or they lied about why they need gold.

The pyramids were landing pads for alien spaceships!

In the creation myth of the Heliopolitan form of ancient Egyptian religion, Benben was the mound that arose from the primordial waters Nu upon which the creator deity Atum settled. The Benben stone (also known as a pyramidion) is the top stone of the pyramid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benben

Some depictions show beings inside... But Baalbek would likely be the best example for the landing platform idea, albeit Mesoamerica has plenty of flat topped pyramidal structures. Were they built for aircraft or an invitation?
 
In a recent 60 Minutes interview, Elizondo claimed the aircraft were undetectable on radar and could pull “6-to-700 g-forces” and “fly at 13,000 miles an hour.” And on Wednesday he claimed more than just reports exist.

“The United States government is in possession of exotic material,” Elizondo claimed. “More analysis needs to be done.”
 
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doesn't count or something as ı don't enough google skills to find more about the same , though must be some vanship universe or whatever and those vanships are racers or something after a single cartoon ı once saw .


as for US having material , it also counts for nothing , because the same people would easily claim they were in possession of fully functional saucers . ı remember buying second hand magazines in the 1990s with US Army jumping in space and time because captured stuff , back in the 80s ı had a brief temptation to go to a movie about Hangar 18 , with an UFO inside , was like horrified in a movie about a guy who found a space gun and it like made him a zombie or whatever . Just like Russians have pieces of American balloons , Americans might have pieces of drones bought from Walmart .
 
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This is based on Zecharia Sitchin's interpretations of Mesopotamian texts but they need the gold for their atmosphere. Then again, he might be wrong or they lied about why they need gold.
Okay, I have to ask what Sitchin actually got out of all this BS? Was it just selling books to the gullible, or was there more? JFCOASB, this is beyond ridiculous.

Going down the gravity well, creating an entire sentient race to mine the stuff extremely slowly and then going up the gravity well is incredible waste of time and energy, considering there are asteroids floating by where they could land with minimal expenditure of energy, scoop up more gold than humankind ever produced within few hours and fly away.

So that doesn't hold water.
Exactly.
 
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