UK Politics V - Have We Got News For You

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Yeah, GPs are kind of at the heart of the NHS. They control access to all more specialised services.
 
Yeah, GPs are kind of at the heart of the NHS. They control access to all more specialised services.
That's not a difference. They're just not there.
 
The high standard of toy MPs:

In one post Jenny Johnson appeared to suggest the testing regime for the pandemic might be unreliable. She wrote: “Time to stop control by outside forces. Regain our sovereign nation state. Anecdotally I know so many who supposedly have tested positive, but really just have common cold symptoms. Mass psychosis at work.”

Another Tory candidate, Yousef Dahmash, who is contesting the Rugby and Bulkington constituency, retweeted a post in February 2022 that pledged support for the US podcaster Joe Rogan after he was criticised for past use of racial slurs. Rogan later apologised over past use of racist language on his show, calling it the “most regretful and shameful thing” he ever had to speak about.

Niall Innes, who is standing in Stockton North, reposted a controversial BBC interview in June 2020 with the TV presenter Neil Oliver in which he suggested Black Lives Matter campaigners might be anarchists or communists attempting to “eat into the built fabric of Britain and thereby to bring down British society”.

Two of the Tory party candidates in London also face scrutiny over their outspoken views. Alex Deane, the candidate for Finchley and Golders Green, wrote a book in 2005 called The Great Abdication in which he said the notion “that all cultures are equally valid” has risked undermining Britain’s culture. In his championing of traditional values, he wrote: “We must teach people to be prejudiced once again.”

Lee Roberts, the Conservative candidate for Putney, attacked London mayor Sadiq Khan at a meeting with Conservative supporters in September 2023. He said: “We are going to drive that snivelling little drip out of County Hall. The man who has done more to destroy London than the Luftwaffe.”
 
If anyone on the left had used the offensive Hebrew/Yiddish word for beggar of any of their opponents everyone from the media to the party leadership would have hammered them. If the target had a Jewish wife it would be even worse. Here are some of the things BoJo said about Keir (warning, daily hate via paywall blocker):

BORIS JOHNSON: Sir Keir Schnorrer plans to slink into No.10 as silently as Larry the cat - then lock us back in the dungeon of Brussels, like a ball-chewing gimp

And I tell you this, my friends: if Schnorrer gets in, he will immediately begin the process of robbing this country of its new-found independence, and make the UK the punk of the EU.

It’s time to smoke him out.

SCHNORRER: n. A beggar, a parasite, a moocher.
 
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It doesn't matter.

The importation of alternative right wing US sound bites won't do the conservatives any favours.

I rather think that most of their traditional voters regard it all as unwanted cultural contamination.

Had some conversations with real people yesterday.

One is beginning to think that the post election conservative party may split into two;
those joining the Reform party and those joining the Liberal Democrat party.
 
It doesn't matter.

The importation of alternative right wing US sound bites won't do the conservatives any favours.

I rather think that most of their traditional voters regard it all as unwanted cultural contamination.
I am not sure what the "US sound bites" are here, I have not heard even the rabid US right using both antisemitism and BDSM imagery in their attacks.
Had some conversations with real people yesterday.

One is beginning to think that the post election conservative party may split into two;
those joining the Reform party and those joining the Liberal Democrat party.
Is any real politician going to join a political part that is a PLC majority owned by Nigel?
 
This could turn out really bad. I do not of course know, but it is possible that this process, combined with the "sort of people" who would apply to be an MP for an organisation that will not let them be a member may have the sort of internet history that will not stand up to the glare of public opinion.
Reform MP candidates. It is not quite clear if they made it onto the official ballot.

Hugo Miller:

Posted a picture of a car in Miami with "caricatures of Zulus" with the N word
He disparages the experience of slaves in America
Claims Muslims are pouring into Britain unchecked and breeding like rabbits
Compares people jumping on a police car to baboons at windsor safari park

Andrea Whitehead:

Posted offensive images of Sadiq Khan
Called Sadiq Khan an undercover Jihadi

Spoiler Youtube reference :
 
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I am not sure what the "US sound bites" are here, I have not heard even the rabid US right using both antisemitism and BDSM imagery in their attacks.

I am not going to point anyone there.

Is any real politician going to join a political part that is a PLC majority owned by Nigel?

I think that Nigel's ownership of the company is more to prevent anyone else taking over
that name and cyber squatting on the email address, twitter (X), web site and etc and
should not be confused with Nigel Farage personally slave owning the general party itself.
 
I am not going to point anyone there.



I think that Nigel's ownership of the company is more to prevent anyone else taking over
that name and cyber squatting on the email address, twitter (X), web site and etc and
should not be confused with Nigel Farage personally slave owning the general party itself.
He could have set it up as a member owned organisation like all the other political parties. Instead he set it up as a company with 15 shares, 8 of which he owns. That is not just to stop cybersquatting.
 
But what exactly is a member owned organisation if the Leader Keir can expel dissidents such as Jeremy and Dianne ?

And if the conservative party breaks up after the general election, who will own its various attributes ?

There might be a lengthy court battle.

Political parties notoriously split (reference Life of Brian); perhaps Nigel is merely ahead of the game.
 
Tory chairman refuses to answer questions about being parachuted into a "safe" seat at the last moment. I so hope he loses his seat.

Spoiler 2:43 Video of interview :
 
Is he that important to the Tory party?
I do not think he is important TO the tory party, I have not seen him before. He is however important IN the tory party, as he makes big decisions and so I guess can get what he wants.
 
He ought to have given a two sentence answer.

Something like:

I've served as an MP for five years and also as a minister; and hope to continue to do so.
John Baron announced he is not standing again for Basildon, so I am replacing him.


Indeed. This is not a difficult question - just ‘own it’ and move on.

It’s like when politicians get asked about why they travel 1st class or get paid more than the average wage, etc.

(To be fair, I don’t think the interviewer is doing a very good job either. A less antagonistic framing may have increased the odds of getting an answer…)
 
I would not have believed it from a comedy show:

Reform candidate said UK should have been neutral against Hitler

A Reform UK candidate claimed the country would be "far better" if it had "taken Hitler up on his offer of neutrality" instead of fighting the Nazis in World War Two.

Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care".

In posts from 2022 on the Unherd magazine website, seen by the BBC, he said Winston Churchill was "abysmal" and praised Russian President Vladimir Putin.
 
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