UK Politics VI - Will Britain Steir to Karmer Waters?

The reason these benefits are in line for cuts is that the number of recipients of them has increased significantly, increasing the total cost.

Before cutting, I think the first question to answer is ‘why has the number of recipients grown’? And if the conclusion is ‘people are faking it’ then policies should rather focus on weeding out the fakers.
 
The reason these benefits are in line for cuts is that the number of recipients of them has increased significantly, increasing the total cost.

Before cutting, I think the first question to answer is ‘why has the number of recipients grown’? And if the conclusion is ‘people are faking it’ then policies should rather focus on weeding out the fakers.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify the oncoming cruelty
 
Mental disabilities should not mean unfit for work or active life, depending on the severity.
Whether mental or physical, the only relevant factor is the fact that the person is disabled. Our DWP (department for work and pensions) has a long history of forcing disabled folk back to work / denying them aid so that they're forced to.

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Before cutting, I think the first question to answer is ‘why has the number of recipients grown’? And if the conclusion is ‘people are faking it’ then policies should rather focus on weeding out the fakers.
Longer NHS waiting lists? If you're ill for longer, recovery chances are worse. Odds of secondary / chronic symptoms increase.

Less available GPs? Same outcome as above.

Massive pandemic we all went through, that the UK doesn't even currently offer boosters for, unlike many other developed countries? Heck, we don't even give regular flu boosters. My US colleague gets them. And that's a country we pan for its attitude to healthcare.

Maybe we should think about why people are getting sick more, and for longer, instead of defaulting to assuming they're faking it?
 
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The number of people claiming disability benefit in the UK has been rising for several years, and it
seems likely that it will continue to rise; so doing nothing means having to find more money.

The way I perceive things and for simplicity there are two categories of disabled people:

(a) those who simply can not work at all

(b) those with a limited ability to work who could do some work,
but not without help or workplace adjustments or for long hours, or as productively as others.
They therefore find it impossible to obtain employment for their skillset.

Let me explain.

And for this purpose as a simplification, I regard the UK employment market as divided into two sectors;

(i) a high credential, qualification and experience sector subject to significant statutory regulation whereby
it takes time and money to enter and often also to stay accredited e.g anaesthetists, barristers, doctors,
dentists, electricians, nurses, oncologists, pilots, solicitors, surgeons, teachers, veterinary surgeons etc

(ii) all other areas (not highly credential).

There is a shortage of people for the credential sector (i) primarily because neither private industry nor
the state are prepared to train adequate numbers. This means that the UK has become excessively
dependent upon importing foreigners or living with service gaps. And because it is possible to import foreigners,
albeit often at great overall cost (because the marginal cost of paying foreigners with credentials to migrate here)
pushes the salary rate up for all), the adequacy of domestic supply is ignored. This has an inflationary effect, and
it also means that many of those UK citizens who could be trained are not and are thus denied a career path.

Organisations in the other non credential sector (ii) are primarily commercial and are driven by the
desire to boost corporate profits, or more prosaically merely to survive, to seek to obtain employees
who are at least as productive if not more so than those employees employed by their competitors.

They simply do NOT want to employ any less productive employees; and with typically 10, 20, 50
applicants for each vacancy; the employment agents can very easily screen out the more obviously
less productive people e.g. the disabled with only a limited ability to do some work.

I do not believe that the UK government can resolve this without substantially changing
the employment market, and it can not do that without challenging the hierarchy of the
financial capitalists. And neither Keir Starmer nor Rachel Reeves are prepared to do that.

Sadly the policy of free trade and the resulting requirement for UK employers to remain
competitive both with each other e.g. subcontractor v subcontractor and with international
competitors means there is much less space to employ the less advantaged i.e. the disabled.

And as the hyper competitiveness of the non credential sector has risen the cut off point where
a minor disability results in the de facto exclusion from the labour market now operates at a
lower level of disability, and that is in my opinion the main reason why the numbers are rising.

There are other factors, disabilities rise with age so raising the starting point by expanding tertiary
education and raising the state pension age has meant that the generally employed age group has
itself become older (21 to 67) rather than (16 to 60/65), and so has many more people with disabilities.
 
Could this be because employers are looking for people who are fit enough to do just about anything? When maybe they shouldn't?
Ex. I'd think the wheelchair-bound would already be advantageous for sitting at workstations for long periods of time.

in the US during the world wars, some industries actually went out of their way to hire disabled people, mostly for practical purposes, like putting deaf people around heavy machinery, or people with dwarfism doing rivet jobs inside airplanes...Maybe that would be seen as demeaning nowadays (?)...
 
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Yes

And then there is always the question of how will we evacuate these wheel chair employees,
if there is a fire and the lifts can not be used because they can not wheel down stairs.
A question most easily solved by many by not employing them in the first place.

Employing disabled people often means that others need to make adjustments
and that is often perceived as having an impact on their productivity.

Thing is it might be profitable for a company to set up a ground floor specifically
for wheel chair employees but that would require a mechanism for communication
the availability of that through the standard employment agency supply chain.

There are other issues.

HR departments often set targets for reducing absenteeism and sick leave.
Most categories of disabled, have, through no fault of their own, higher rates.
 
Nigel Farage has apparently spent 800 hours on non-MP work since first being elected to Parliament last July. That's the equivalent of 20 weeks of full-time employment in just 37 weeks since 4th July, which doesn't even take into consideration any time that Parliament was in recess.
 
The problem was not that they had no power but that it took all day to turn everything off and on again

National Grid's chief executive has said Heathrow had "enough power" from other substations following Friday's fire that caused the airport to shut down.

A Heathrow spokeswoman said that Mr Pettigrew's comments "confirms that this was an unprecedented incident and that it would not have been possible for Heathrow to operate uninterrupted.

"Hundreds of critical systems across the airport were required to be safely powered down and then safely and systematically rebooted," she said.

"Given Heathrow's size and operational complexity, safely restarting operations after a disruption of this magnitude was a significant challenge."

Heathrow managers decided to close the airport on safety grounds while they switched to the alternative National Grid supplies.

The airport's chief executive, Thomas Woldbye, told the BBC the delay in reopening was due to the need to "reallocate" the power supply - "closing down and restarting systems which takes a long time".

Transport secretary says she’d ‘struggle to sleep’ after report airport boss went to bed amid crisis

The UK’s transport secretary has said she would “struggle to sleep” if she had been running Heathrow airport, amid reports that its chief executive slept during the early hours of an unfolding crisis on Friday.

The airport’s boss, Thomas Woldbye, went to bed at 12.30am, the Sunday Times reported, and left the chief operating officer, Javier Echave, to take key decisions while the substation powering the airport burned.
 
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I think that Starmer is only focused on how to sell billions of pounds of weapons to countries with a population of 1 million that aspire to build an army to defend against Russia.
Maybe also sell more GW toys, because you'd need an army of WH40K dreadnoughts in that case.
They can sell missiles and similar, no?
Currently the Eu is actively meaning to force 800 billion euros in weapons buying. Apart from other problems with that (not so long ago we had a crisis about borrowing, but now it's fine), not even 1 trillion would build an army when your population can't sustain it.
Most Eu countries don't even have 100 tanks - some literally have zero tanks.
We already knew you'll never forgive the EU for prioritizing collective self-defense higher than bonuses for Greek public sector staff, but thanks for a reminder. 🫡
 
Don't be like that. That post literally added nothing to the discussion and of course was off-topic. I hoped you would not be that unfazed by my decision to not respond in kind to such, but there aren't many things left in that case other than not bothering with what you post to me.
Yes, I can see how you could have seen it as a dig, but population isn't a dig nor was it mentioned as one; it is unpractical to expect it to not matter in regards to building an army against those countries.
 
Don't be like that. That post literally added nothing to the discussion and of course was off-topic. I hoped you would not be that unfazed by my decision to not respond in kind to such, but there aren't many things left in that case other than not bothering with what you post to me.
Yes, I can see how you could have seen it as a dig, but population isn't a dig nor was it mentioned as one; it is unpractical to expect it to not matter in regards to building an army against those countries.
Speaking of "adding to the discussion", if I had a dollar for every time I've seen you get hung up on population and number of tanks of Baltic countries, I would have at least a dozen. That belaboring the point a bit.

Never mind that you seem to be simultaneously criticizing the countries for arming themselves and for not being sufficiently armed.

Surprisingly enough, we're quite aware of the population disadvantage and its implications. If you're not making pointless digs, what is your overall message or suggested alternative course of action?
 
Speaking of "adding to the discussion", if I had a dollar for every time I've seen you get hung up on population and number of tanks of Baltic countries, I would have at least a dozen. That belaboring the point a bit.

Never mind that you seem to be simultaneously criticizing the countries for arming themselves and for not being sufficiently armed.

Surprisingly enough, we're quite aware of the population disadvantage and its implications. If you're not making pointless digs, what is your overall message or suggested alternative course of action?
My suggested alternative isn't the same for the baltic states and the rest of the Eu, because no one even somewhat sane should believe that Russia will try to conquer Britain, Belgium, France or Iberia. Smaller countries, which were in the soviet block and (far more importantly, perhaps) with sizable Russian minorities, I do agree have a real reason to fear attacks by Russia.
Imo the latest armament forced program has only one goal: to keep a few economies afloat after they suffered from no longer buying cheap energy from Russia.
As for the baltic states; there is no solution there, at least with current tech. If you are attacked, then you should hope that help comes from some key countries - and that it will be enough, as US won't be one of them. Yourself having a little larger an army than you have now obviously won't change anything in an attack by Russia.
 
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Baltic security concerns are very real and are about a catastrophic/existential level issue. Concerns about German manufacturing concerns being opportunistic are real but a bit lower tier.
They are real and existential level - which of course in no way implies that Britain - or Germany, or France - care about that. They care about making money through it.
If they cared about protecting those baltic states, they would build permanent military bases there, not force the entire Eu to buy their weapons as if half the continent will go to war with Russia.
 
My suggested alternative isn't the same for the baltic states and the rest of the Eu, because no one even somewhat sane should believe that Russia will try to conquer Britain, Belgium, France or Iberia. Smaller countries, which were in the soviet block and (far more importantly, perhaps) with sizable Russian minorities, I do agree have a real reason to fear attacks by Russia.
So your suggested alternative to Britain, Belgium, France and Iberia is to look the other way while Russia attempts to recreate the USSR (at the expense of other NATO and EU members) - because they themselves will be in danger only once it has succeeded?

They care about making money through it.
So they can profit from helping their allies defend themselves against an existential threat.

Where is the downside here again?
 
Not at all. First off, one can't be taken seriously if they think Russia would invade (say) Iberia. What would they do with it even if they magically got there?
Russia doesn't have enough people to colonize far away parts of the Eu.

The "downside" is that force-selling a trillion dollars in weapons to the Eu won't save your country, and imo only very problematic people manage to convince themselves it will. Those are two entirely unrelated matters. The UK government is aware that this is only about short-term profit, time for you to be aware too instead of swallowing pleasing words.
 
I support and I believe the EU should be aiming to become a federation of European Countries akin to a USE...so @Kyriakos stance makes no sense to me. It's like the northerner American states reasoning they shouldn’t play a role in helping Texas defend themselves from an invasion from Mexico.
Look, if Turkey decides to invade Greece I really hope most European citizens and leadership don't have your mindset.
The Russian invasion of the Iberian peninsula you floated in your comments it's something I have gave some though more than a couple of times. It looks ludicrous from the point of view that for Russia to annex what has carved from Ukraine it need US help that they would invade us...but what have we to stop the brutality of a Russian invasion. Spanish may fare better than little Portugal...is this the Europe you crave, everyone for themselves!?
 
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