I find it hard to believe that Mitt Romney and Sam Brownback are more authoritarian than Rudy Giuliani. The man practically eats terrorists for breakfast!
US Primaries '07- Political Compass
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The only thing related to terrorists that Rudy eats for breakfast is his words.
Irish Caesar
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Thanks, that made me chuckle.
I find it hard to believe that Mitt Romney and Sam Brownback are more authoritarian than Rudy Giuliani. The man practically eats terrorists for breakfast!
Giuliani's views on abortion and homosexual marriage likely place him more "libertarian," especially considering the others probably don't have a huge problem with counter-terrorism measures, even if they don't take them to the extreme Mr. Giuliani might.
Hygro
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Everybody seems to be getting confused over the Democrats apparently showing up in the upper-right quadrant. In an effort to help everyone out, I've Americanized the results to show how they actually fit into the American sense of left/right and authoritarian/libertarian. Note how Gravel and Kucinich are so far off the reservation now that it's a wonder anybody gives them any credence.
even with that vast improvement (thanks for the graph
) it's still a load of malarky.
Haven't treated commies like that since McCarthy.
dh_epic
Cold War Veteran
You killed Gravel and Kucinich! LOL
I find it hard to believe that Hillary is the closest to libertarianism of all the candidates. Just not buying it.
I find it hard to believe that Hillary is the closest to libertarianism of all the candidates. Just not buying it.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
The problem with the political compass is that the rating of answers to these questions and how it would be scored depends highly on your point of view with regard to those issues. Whoever it was that developed the scoring scheme is more than likely to be left of center on the economic scale and lower on the social scale. If you look at any of the placements for EU governments, the US Primaries 2007, or any of the others, everyone is apparently in the upper right hand portion of the so-called "universal scale."
Everybody seems to be getting confused over the Democrats apparently showing up in the upper-right quadrant. In an effort to help everyone out, I've Americanized the results to show how they actually fit into the American sense of left/right and authoritarian/libertarian. Note how Gravel and Kucinich are so far off the reservation now that it's a wonder anybody gives them any credence.
on realigning the axes. I too would be curious about where they get their data from; on the auth/lib axis I'm probably reasonably close to Ron Paul but yet (on the original scale) I'm several points below him.But Hillary and Edwards at the same level as Paul on the authoritarian scale? Can anyone name some auth/lib issues (that don't have economic impact) where we could differentiate them? I mean, the obvious one to me is guns, and that certainly is not an issue where they share a position.
dh_epic
Cold War Veteran
The truth is the center is smack dab in the middle of Communism/Capitalism, and Tyranny/Anarchy. If you're aware of that, it makes sense that most of Western Democracy is in the right half of the map -- they're all closer to capitalism than communism.
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that a Scandinavian country is in the political center.
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that a Scandinavian country is in the political center.
JohnRM
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Sweden IS NOT the political center, unless you're a communist.
Princeps
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Well, you see, when you have neoliberal nation-wrecking nutcases to west, and communist nation-wrecking tyrants to the east, you sorta feel "in the middle". At least during the cold war, I guess.
Hygro
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Well thats true and all for this graph, but I've been between -4 to -6.5 on lib/authn and -6 to -1.5 on left and right. (And I got the -1.5 answering the intent of the question, not the actual, biased question). I'm not more socialist than capitalist at all. I'm not more anarchist than civic. I'm more liberal than conservative, and I'm pretty moderate economically, which puts me simply in the wrong area of the test.
IIRC the test is intended to show people how libertarian they are compared to the politicians they vote for, hoping to get people to vote more libertarian.
dh_epic
Cold War Veteran
How is it not? Mixed economy, neither communist nor capitalist, neither anarchist nor fascist.
But this test definitely tries to get more people to vote libertarian by having two dimensions. You can define a test however you want in order to create your own extremes and your own center.
cubsfan6506
Got u
Damn I am moving to australia someday. I also don't find this to be to correct. I think thye need to get them to take the test.
