US sending troops to Uganda

[carmen510]

Poor africans, as if "you" were not already doing more than enough to keep them screwed.
First there was the whole colonial episode, then there was the sponsoring of rebellions all over Congo with the use of mercenaries (and who paid those mercenaries, it was a questions worth asking...), then the placement of that thief Mobutu there, then the rwandan mess spilled over thanks to the oh-so-well-intended "humanitarian intervention" which meddled with the civil war there by sheltering one of the parties to that war across the border (the civil wars on Rwanda being also the result of a long history of foreign meddling and supposed good intentions), then there are the religious fanatics in Rwanda accidentally created by the oh-so-well-intentioned missionaries...

And the end result is that always, always, there is an excuse for yet another "humanitarian intervention". More more meddling. For preventing the region from reaching any kind of stability on its own. The "humanitarian interventions" will sow the seeds of future conflict and ensure the excuse for future "humanitarian interventions. That's how modern colonialism works.

Supporting brutal regimes so that countries won't align with your enemy does not count as humanitarian intervention, at least in my book. Your whole theory about perpetuating humanitarian interventions is simply wrong. The United States, China, and any other "colonial power" have economic and political concerns for the continent of Africa, sometimes with a dose of humanitarian good intentions. They don't want instability, since that directly harms those interests and costs them money.

Plus, there's a difference between supporting a dictator like Mobutu and stopping someone who has quite clearly committed crimes against humanity.

 

[jtb1127]

What's the problem? We can't send 100 troops to help stop terrorists/rapists/murderers anymore?

 

[classical_hero]

Apparently that is colonialism.

 

[jtb1127]

Yes, the imperial guard of one hundred will be sufficient to colonize the country.

 

[Lord of Elves]

What the heck business do we have in Uganda? I say we send Obama and Gates to the front lines first.

Because all decisions made by politicians are necessarily evil, including those that imply training a nation's military to deal with lawless individuals responsible for the abuse and rape of their citizens. Improving the quality of life for non-Americans? Unheard of. This is exactly why we didn't intervene in the World Wars.

 

[ZeletDude]

I say this is good, stopping people from murdering and killing other people is good *IMO*
Plus 100 troops is so miniscule it won't have any effects..

 

[warpus]

The guy they're there to hunt down is as evil as they get.

Maybe even as evil as the 1%

 

[Defiant47]

If America truly cared about those people, it would invade in full-force. This is akin to lip service.

 

[jtb1127]

Because all decisions made by politicians are necessarily evil, including those that imply training a nation's military to deal with lawless individuals responsible for the abuse and rape of their citizens. Improving the quality of life for non-Americans? Unheard of. This is exactly why we didn't intervene in the World Wars.

And god forbid we intervene in a crisis for reasons besides self-interest.

 

[amadeus]

LRA are terrorists, just not... the right kind, am i rite?

Even given that the LRA are bad people, why should we be supporting bad people in the Ugandan government? How long will it be before some Konyites sneak into America, hijack our airplanes and crash them into our landmarks?

Improving the quality of life for non-Americans? Unheard of. This is exactly why we didn't intervene in the World Wars.

And god forbid we intervene in a crisis for reasons besides self-interest.

Why don't you two go? Or is it OK to be a chickenhawk when you're intervening for "humanitarian" reasons?

 

[GhostWriter16]

Because all decisions made by politicians are necessarily evil, including those that imply training a nation's military to deal with lawless individuals responsible for the abuse and rape of their citizens. Improving the quality of life for non-Americans? Unheard of. This is exactly why we didn't intervene in the World Wars.

We should only have intervened in one of those world wars

That said, yes, within reason we should want to help everyone. But Americans should come first.

 

[jtb1127]

Why don't you two go? Or is it OK to be a chickenhawk when you're intervening for "humanitarian" reasons?

There're people in the army for that. Or am I not allowed to support any military action unless I myself am heading over?

That said, yes, within reason we should want to help everyone. But Americans should come first.

How is sending 100 troops to Uganda going to not put Americans first?

 

[amadeus]

There're people in the army for that. Or am I not allowed to support any military action unless I myself am heading over?

How many of the kids that will be forced to go over there signed up to protect crooked African governments?

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

I hope Obama actually doesn't think that 100 troops can do what the Ugandan army has failed to do since the '80s.

 

[jtb1127]

How many of the kids that will be forced to go over there signed up to protect crooked African governments?

I thought the established figure was 100.

And I'll take a crooked African government any day of the week over the LRA.

 

[amadeus]

Great, you can tell that to the parents of the boys that come home in black bags.

 

[carmen510]

Great, you can tell that to the parents of the boys that come home in black bags.

Considering the fact that they're acting in advisory capacity and will not engage with LRA forces (except in self-defense), I think you might be exaggerating just a tad.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Museveni is actually a fairly effective leader, I wouldn't call him crooked, even though he is a little extreme.

 

[amadeus]

I didn't know if they were combat troops or not. If they aren't now, I'm sure we'll have some there soon.

 

[jtb1127]

Great, you can tell that to the parents of the boys that come home in black bags.

I wonder how the relatives of the 30,000 Ugandans will feel.