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What healthy food is cheap, advertised often and ready to eat at the time of purchase?
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What healthy food is cheap, advertised often and ready to eat at the time of purchase?
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Lots of healthy food!
Where I live, a fast food meal that will actually fill me up costs about 7 bucks (with taxes and all). For seven bucks, I can buy multiple servings of rice, beans and fruit. For the price of 2 fast food meals, i can buy the ingredients to make fairly large sammichs for a week, or two full dinners.
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How does that work then?
Federal sets the standards and the state collects the taxes to fund it and administer it. i.e. how are the taxes administered for it ?
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Bad food is cheaper. First, one must consider the time it takes to cook healthier food. That raises the cost of that food (time is money). Second, you can eat Top Ramen for free, pratically, and that isn't very good for you. Also, the McDonald's dollar menu is extremely cheap and, of course, very unhealthy. As someone that use to eat very badly and now eats very healthy food, I can say it isn't even close. I could live off $2-4 a day eating unhealthy if I was so inclined. It costs about double that ($8+) to eat a healthy and well-balanced diet, at least.
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Yeah, but while rice and beans aren't that unhealthy per se, they aren't very rich in terms of what's inside.
I was talking more about uberhealthy stuff like veggies.
wilycoyote
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An example from where I am from. A healthy meal of grilled chicken and veggies would cost about $3 ($2 for the chicken breast and $1 for the veggies). It would have about 40 grams of protein.
On the other hand, two dollar-menu McDonald's cheeseburgers cost $2 and give you something like 40 grams of protein.
Thus, it is about 50% more expensive to each healthy. Now, most people aren't so poor to worry so much about this, but it is cheaper to eat unhealthy.
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1.) No it didn't.
2.) the average price for a pound of ground beef in the US as of OCT 2011 was $3.21 a pound. Or in other words, making a quarter pound burger at home costs You $.80.
Mind you that is the average, I am positive i can find it cheaper and combined with an ubiquitous grocery store discount card/coupons/sales/buying in increments greater than a single pound get that cost down considerably.
The type that's often not available to America's poor due to food deserts and take more work and skill to prepare.
Food deserts are definitely an issue in the U.S. but last I checked McDonalds has more revenue coming out of Europe than the U.S. so I'd suggest some of you are looking at the wrong problem.
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Using Harris Teeter online shopping in my area yields the following at a cursory glance, and keep in mind shopping in this way restricts me from knowing about sale items and brands.
Tofu, 5 servings - $2.00
Fresh Large Shell Eggs, 1 dozen, 12 servings - $3.29
Whole Pork Loin - 1 lion, 5 servings - $10.00
Fresh Carrots, 1 bag, 10-12 servings - $1.49
Fresh Rutabega, 1 piece, 4-5 servings - $2.49
Fresh Turnip, 1 piece, 2 servings - $.49
Fresh Egg Plant, 1 piece, 4-5 servings - $1.79
Fresh Green Cabage, 1 head, 10-12 servings - $2.37
Fresh Bok Choy, 1 bundle, 4-5 servings - $ 1.27
Fresh Asperegus, 1 bundle, 6 servings - $3.99
Fresh Corn, 1 cob, 4 servings - $.60
it's quite easy, there is not a fast food combo out there I can't beat, generally at half the price or better.
If people are so dumb they have to rely on TV to tell them what to eat then yeah, that may happen.
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It's true about food desertsthe folks that run a lot of urban zoning boards prevent low-price retailers from entering inner city markets and keep poor people impoverished.
Ziggy Stardust
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- How about food that is prepared for you and you buy ready to eat?
Murky
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The idea there is that keeping Wal-Marts out helps keep small business going. You are right that Wal-Marts can sell produce at low prices, which would be better for poor people. A lot of poor people in rural areas shop at Wal-Marts. That downside of that has been lack of small business development. More people are going out of business than starting up in rural areas because of the big box stores.
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Why is that relevant. We are talking about access to healthy food, not the laziness of people.
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I think the laziness of people plays an important role as well 
Or maybe the time people have to prepare food if both parents are working, as well as the willingness to prepare a meal. I believe that the decision to buy MacD is also determined by time and ease.
But I simply asked to compare apples to apples. Not making any point with it.
Or maybe the time people have to prepare food if both parents are working, as well as the willingness to prepare a meal. I believe that the decision to buy MacD is also determined by time and ease.But I simply asked to compare apples to apples. Not making any point with it.
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I think that is a valid discussion, I just think it is a seperate problem. I was addressing the hand waving "its too expensive" rhetoric that was going on.
Time and money are both impediments to healthy living, they have differnet solutions though (if there is indeed a problem).
Time and money are both impediments to healthy living, they have differnet solutions though (if there is indeed a problem).
Ziggy Stardust
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One of them seems to be: get a girlfriend. Since I got one my eating habits have improved immensely.
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