Views on Killing?

[Kozmos]

Nevermind that, but being agressive and violent is part of what makes us human. That would be like killing a part of me, the only way I could live in a peaceful pacifist world if a lobotomy was preformed on me.

 

[El_Machinae]

His shares in 'nukes R us' would plummet, and he was counting on them for his retirement.

 

[Kozmos]

His shares in 'nukes R us' would plummet, and he was counting on them for his retirement.

I was thinkig more like Nano-Disentegration Bombs but yeah you figured me out

 

[warpus]

Nevermind that, but being agressive and violent is part of what makes us human. That would be like killing a part of me, the only way I could live in a peaceful pacifist world if a lobotomy was preformed on me.

If that's your actual position then perhaps you don't belong in our society anyway.

 

[tomsnowman123]

Nevermind that, but being agressive and violent is part of what makes us human. That would be like killing a part of me, the only way I could live in a peaceful pacifist world if a lobotomy was preformed on me.

But not being violent does not make us "non-human."

 

[Kyriakos]

Killing breaks up into non violent thoughts in deeper levels.

Sorry, i was united with Wintermute

edit: in reality it does, since a violent thought remains to be characterised as violent only when you view it in relation to the surface of its subjects. We do not have the ability to knife someone because we know what a knife is, or because we can move our hands, but because we have massive capacity of calculative thought.
Violence is another form of action ofcourse, and in the level of consciousness that out society is built it is very usefull to control it.

 

[Kozmos]

If that's your actual position then perhaps you don't belong in our society anyway.

Perhaps I dont, perhaps I've been dropped on the head as a kid and should be institutisionalized.(spelling?) But you'll have to catch me first

 

[7ronin]

Because in the US, the study claiming that you're more likely to be killed with your own weapon has been debunked.

ID thanks for the interesting link; Kellerman is indeed way out in left field on his study. I do think though that there would be fewer gun injuries in the U.S. if there was a minimum amount of training required for handgun ownership. I have hundreds of hours on the range with a pistol and it is always safety, safety, safety. While I am in favor of handgun ownership (for the most part) I don't think it is a wise decision for most people. It is a frangible skill assuming that you ever practice enough to have any skill to begin with and I don't think that the average person has the mindset to be able to pull the trigger on another person. The mantra is, "Do not draw the weapon unless you intend to shoot to eliminate the threat."

 

[toh6wy]

The only things I don't care at all about killing are bacteria/virii/other microscopic creatures (for obvious reasons) and annoying, very abundant and common small arthropods (mostly mosquitoes, flies, ticks, and fleas). I would feel quite bad about killing any mammal, bird, or reptile, and pretty bad about killing any amphibian or fish, but for most invertebrates -- I would avoid killing them, but if I happened to, it wouldn't really trouble me.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

Another limited poll with no option for "killing is ok in some circumstances, not ok in others".

That would be my choice.

My choice as well, killing is totally situational dependant.

I could go out of my way to try to save a stranger's life but still if I felt someone was threatening my family I could kill them without hesitation or regret.

 

[JohnRM]

Generally speaking, I see killing as only acceptable in self-defense. Obviously there are exceptions such as killing for food. That is quasi self defense.

 

[Spartan117]

All killing is wrong, except out of self-defense.

i choose this becoz human, and animals kill for survival. Just like things for food, self defence, but kill for the need, NOT FOR THE GREED !!

well some animals killl for fun..."killer" whales sometimes play with their food but sometimes dont even eat it

 

[amadeus]

People and pets.

Everything else, you're on your own.

 

[Narz]

Ah, I wish I'd made this a public poll. I want to see all the people who voted for option seven.

Any way I can make it one now, mods?

 

[ummmm........]

I ran over a chipmunk this afternoon.

I tried to dodge but ended up hitting it square.

I felt bad at first, but then thought "eh, it's just a chipmunk'.

Then I noticed that thinking that didn't really make me feel better.

Then I felt good about feeling bad about killing the chipmunk, since I figured that proved I was a good person.

Then I noticed that that was absurd.

Then I just sort of stopped thinking about it.

So thanks for bringing it back up.

I should point out that at no point did I consider the fact that I hadn't actually intended to kill the chipmunk.

Generally, killing people is always "bad" in the result sense of the word. The moral sense of the word has no objective meaning so I could only comment for myself there.

But just because something's bad doesn't mean it's not the best option.

Killing non-humans isn't really bad, but could be a symptom of badness.

 

[Ramius75]

well some animals killl for fun..."killer" whales sometimes play with their food but sometimes dont even eat it

saw a documentary on that also, but in that show, the killer whales actually push the injured seal back into the beach. very werid... and they have no intention to eat it.

Some animals toy with their food to train on hunting skill for leisure.. like my cats. they kill alot, but seldom eat the small animals...

 

[Bozo Erectus]

If I could press a button and kill every cockroach on the planet not only would I press it without hesitation, Id probably get a ticker tape parade down 5th Ave.

 

[Shaihulud]

Pointless killing, i don't like since it is a waste. Constructive killing, that is killing with a purpose that most people can identify as, i support wholeheartedly. I believe that violence is part of the human experience, removing our capacity or ability to commit violence is dehumanizing, i would rather take an educational approach to diminish violence and pointless killing.

 

[IglooDame]

ID thanks for the interesting link; Kellerman is indeed way out in left field on his study. I do think though that there would be fewer gun injuries in the U.S. if there was a minimum amount of training required for handgun ownership. I have hundreds of hours on the range with a pistol and it is always safety, safety, safety. While I am in favor of handgun ownership (for the most part) I don't think it is a wise decision for most people. It is a frangible skill assuming that you ever practice enough to have any skill to begin with and I don't think that the average person has the mindset to be able to pull the trigger on another person. The mantra is, "Do not draw the weapon unless you intend to shoot to eliminate the threat."

That's the mantra I learned in the Navy, anyway. After having taken a few CCW classes, done a lot of reading and thinking, and spent some decent time at the range as well, I'd amend it very slightly: "Do not draw the weapon unless you are prepared to shoot to eliminate the threat." I agree that more training would be helpful, and in many states there already is a training requirement for carry-concealed permits.

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

Killing humans is OK if you have a good cause. Kill a dog and I will kill you.