CurtSibling said:To choose death over immortality is to me, the product of indoctrination by guilt-dealing religions that demand all men be humble.
Eran of Arcadia said:Not for me it's not. I realy don't think I could handle thousands of years continung as I am now. I am impatient and bored enough with life as it is. Leaving religion out of it, I would take worm food. At least now I have death to look forward to.
CurtSibling said:I just have to laugh at that kind of attitude.
Just glad my life is not so miserable as this. You have my pity.
Eran of Arcadia said:My life is not miserable. I just don't think I could handle an infinite amount of time here on earth. If I were given an extra few thousand years, or even as long as I want but the option to die any time, I might take it, as long as I have death to look forward to at some point. But we didn't evolve to last forever and I doubt anyone could handle the psychological burden.
If love is heavy you're not lifting it right.Bozo Erectus said:Great question. You mean love the emotion? Yes I have. Its one of the heaviest things we're asked to carry with us.
I try imagining what it would be like for someone else but I never really know. Are you trying to tell me you do know? What it's like to be a cat, a rock, a bumblebee, a woman? Please, do share!Bozo Erectus said:Narz likes being Narz! Imagine that! [/sarcasm] One day try imagining not being Narz (Im talking about inside, dont waste time imagining Narz walking around in a giant rabbit suit). A complete absence of Narzness. Being something else, anything. It aint easy, but it can be done, if you try really really hard.
And again, I don't mind your view that death is intregal to life (that is pretty clear although technically not everyone has to die for life to keep going. It's just that you seem so dead set on thinking that this life is mostly suffering (I know it's a popular religious concept but not one that I subscribe to) and that the next go round (or heaven, whatever) will be much, much better. I'm just saying what evidence makes you think that what comes next will be so much cheerier?Bozo Erectus said:Again Captain, theres nothing gloom and doom about knowing that death is an integral part of life. Am I gloomy because I know the suns going to set in a few hours? Sheesh![]()
If you look carefully you'll notice I voted for option two.Bozo Erectus said:shouting into megaphone: Eternal life would be a curse! Not life! I repeat: Eternal life would be a curse! Not life!
CIVPhilzilla said:I would love to live forever, gives me plenty of time to take over the world.
True, I always forget to lift with my legs and not my back.Narz said:If love is heavy you're not lifting it right.![]()
Purrfectly delightful? (groan)I try imagining what it would be like for someone else but I never really know. Are you trying to tell me you do know? What it's like to be a cat,
Everybody must get stoned.a rock,
Or at least buzzed.a bumblebee,
I usually pass that question on to Pete Townsend.a woman?
Hey wait a minute, arent you like Johnny Natural over there? What could be more unnatural than a few people being immortal?And again, I don't mind your view that death is intregal to life (that is pretty clear although technically not everyone has to die for life to keep going.
It is when you learn to recognize suffering when you see it, or experience it, and understand everything the word encompasses, or alot of it anyway.It's just that you seem so dead set on thinking that this life is mostly suffering
I never said anything about things being cheerier. Clearer, yes.(I know it's a popular religious concept but not one that I subscribe to) and that the next go round (or heaven, whatever) will be much, much better. I'm just saying what evidence makes you think that what comes next will be so much cheerier?
The Verve: Bittersweet Symphony
'Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, this life
Try to make ends meet
Your a slave to money then you die
I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down
You know the one that takes you
to the places where all the things meet yeah
No change,
I can't change I can't change, I can't change
But I'm here in my mould, I am here in my mould
But I'm a million different people from one day to the next
I can't change my mould
No, no, no, no, no
Well I never pray
But tonight I'm on my knees yeah
I need to hear some sounds
that recognize the pain in me, yeah
I let the melody shine, let it cleanse my mind,
I feel free now
But the airways are clean
and there's nobody singing to me now
No change,
I can't change I can't change, I can't change
But I'm here in my mould, I am here in my mould
And I'm a million different people from one day to the next
I can't change my mould
No, no, no, no, no
I can't change I can't change
'Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, this life
Try to make ends meet
Try to find some money, then you die
I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down
You know the one that takes you
to the places where all the things meet yeah
You know I can't change, I can't change
I can't change, I can't change
But I'm here in my mould, I am here in my mould
And I'm a million different people from one day to the next
I can't change my mould
No, no, no, no, no
I can't change my mould
no, no, no, no, no,
I can't change
I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down
I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down
(It justs sex and violence melody and silence)
(Been down)
(Ever been down)
That you've ever been down
That you've ever been down