What does a MAGA hat stand for?

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Your attempts to distance yourself and shift blame by claiming to vote for the candidate don't magically undo or ameliorate the harm your vote does

I'm not trying to shift blame. There would have to be blame for that. The blame is just your opinion. You don't know me.
And you can't link any direct harm to any vote I have ever made. You just find comfort in your accusations. That is the hate I'm talking about.

And for the record, I have stated that I would vote for mickey mouse against Trump in November.
 
You just find comfort in your accusations. That is the hate I'm talking about.

You seriously believe I'm in any way comfortable with my fellow Americans voting in any capacity for a party, individual candidate or not, considers me on par with a sexual offender?

Nothing you have said or ever could say could be more offensive then this.

I despair for this country because otherwise reasonable people such as yourself can still contemplate voting for a party of ghouls who clearly relish being reactionary.
 
We are not aware of this. "Transmarine found beaten to death outside bar in Quantico" Does that sound like an unlikely headline? Or "DoD expresses fear for transPoW in Mideast".

The DoD policy was a deliberate effort to migrate a hard path.
The Trump tweets about this effort (which don't match what DoD did, but whatevs) were #MAGA

This conversation is a bit about what the base is yelling for, the people wearing the hats. Just because the DoD carefully crafted new policy, it doesn't mean that the #MAGA hats are reasonable or represent reasonable things.
 
You seriously believe I'm in any way comfortable with my fellow Americans voting in any capacity for a party, individual candidate or not, considers me on par with a sexual offender?
NO, you can't generalize like that. You can't list one legislative vote by anyone that I ever voted for that has directly harmed you or another minority. Yet you condemn me. That's speaks poorly more of you than me.
 
Beats voting straight party any day of the week. You can prefer to let others choose who you should vote for. That's what I consider naive.
If you believe that just because they have the label in front of the name makes them morally superior is just silly.

I get that Chicago is a unique place and likely has political trends / environment different from the country at large, but for a lot of us there simply isn’t any viable option besides straight ticket democrat. In all elections I have been able to vote in the GOP candidates have been either: Romney, Trump, some random Republican who ran on a “Hate Metro Minnesota” platform, or a potbellied shock jock who lamented being unable to call women sluts.

The Democrats on the other hand have been largely competent left of center focusing on health, education, the environment, and infrastructure. Not like there is much of a choice for a young lefty living in the greater metro area.
 
NO, you can't generalize like that. You can't list one legislative vote by anyone that I ever voted for that has directly harmed you or another minority. Yet you condemn me. That's speaks poorly more of you than me.

Name me those that you voted for and let's see their records.

And I will generalize when that party has made no attempts to distance itself from its past, a repugnant and bigoted past, a past it still weas with pride.
 
Yes, you have no idea yet condemn me. Classy. But not unexpected.

Name them.

I want to hear of those individual gop candidates/representatives that didn't act or vote In lockstep with the party on issues concerning minorities.

I don't have much faith in the GOP, so apologies for not giving them the benefit of the doubt when they can't extend even a fraction of that to me.
 
I've already proven my point. You can condemn whoever you want without knowing any real facts about the person.
Your hatred blinds you and I do feel sorry for you.
 
I've already proven my point. You can condemn whoever you want without knowing any real facts about the person.
Your hatred blinds you and I do feel sorry for you.

Is that you conceding the argument then?

I want to know who you voted for so I can check their record,because I don't trust someone who has bandied about the fact they marched for minorities but yet cannot accept that the GOP is openly hostile to them, on an intrinsic level.
 
You condemned before you knew. OR do you deny that?
SAD And you complain about people condemning you without knowing you.
 
You condemned before you knew. OR do you deny that?
SAD And you complain about people condemning you without knowing you.

There's a world of difference between judging someone on an immutable characteristic and judging someone on who they've voted for.

Which you know.

See, others might be polite enough to not press the issue but I have no such problems, because there's an underlying contradiction between what you claim to be; an ally and your record of voting, you think the past absolves you of what you do now and it does not.
 
Not when you don't even know who they voted for.
Which you should know.

But I'm done discussing this. You have have already judged me. Next time actually do it based on some actual facts.
 
I'm waiting for you to give me those facts.

Enlighten us.

The GOP acts in lockstep, your attempts to justify or minimize your votes don't wash with me and I suspect they wouldn't be considered acceptable to many others on the receiving end.
 
You condemned before you knew. OR do you deny that?
SAD And you complain about people condemning you without knowing you.

Yo, "US Republican has bigoted hurtful voting record" isn't exactly an outrageous prior, it's kinda baked into their platform.
 
Yo, "US Republican has bigoted hurtful voting record" isn't exactly an outrageous prior, it's kinda baked into their platform.
The Republican Party is also known for having a party line that can't be drifted from. The Democrats have the same, albeit to a lesser extent.

An individual Republican rep might be okay, but this likely falls short where it matters in the voting record.

Of course, I'm certain Cloud would be happy to be proven wrong. It is a little concerning that Rah insisted on the idea of an Honorable Republican™ outside of the GOP but immediately leaves in a huff when asked for specifics.
 
The Republican Party is also known for having a party line that can't be drifted from. The Democrats have the same, albeit to a lesser extent.

The Democrat's line is easier to drift from without anyone noticing because it's about 20 miles long. It's hard to keep track of everything they're passionate about and all the reasons I'm a ghoul.
 
It has nothing to do with 'moral superior.' It has to do with the absolute fact that whether YOU are a straight party voter or not isn't the issue, the issue is that whoever you vote for, they ARE.


@rah, I find it disconcerting that you didn't respond to this, since it is a clam and deliberate statement that points to the crux of the problem.
 
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