What is the US up to with regard to Iran?

What did you expect after Trump appointed Pompeo, a noted Iran hawk with a long history of playing footsie with Islamophobic bigots?

Who knew that appointing a NEOCON would result in advice for regime change using military force ? Who knew foreign policy could be so complicated ?
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Iam surprised that the Trumpsters haven't denounced Hannity Iran war shrill as a Hillary deep state agent already.
 
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Iam surprised that the Trumpsters haven't denounced Hannity Iran war shrill as a Hillary deep state agent already.
I don't watch him so I googled "hannity iran war" and got a dose of google's socially-linked search algorithm. Domains of the first page of search results in order:

www.theroot.com (left)
www.thedailybeast.com (left)
www.cnsnews.com (right)
www.salon.com (left)
www.mediamatters.org (left)
www.thehill.com (left)
www.express.co.uk (right)
www.huffpost.com (left)
www.newsweek.com (left)

twitter frontloaded: cns (right), dailybeast (left), mediamatters (left)
vids: fox (right), fox (right), youngturks (left)

There is no direct link to any primary source transcript or OC from Hannity or his site, www.hannity.com.

Google probably backloads results from that site in particular. Instead it rather obviously floods the zone with errata and commentary from content creators who most assuredly do not watch Sean Hannity. So the main thing to denounce here, I guess, is your media and platforms, as usual. Sasuga Jen Gennai.

Looking at the two fox videos listed, the second one is Tucker. The first one actually is Hannity's show but it appears to be a guest host with a panel of congressmen, where they are doing nothing like "iran war shrill." So, no Hannity, at all. According to the congressmen Pompeo's goal is not to glass Iran but to get them "back to the negotiating table."

I have no reason to trust the word of people on this thread more than congressmen or random entries in the phone book, so I will remain undecided / don't care / whatever on the topic of Pompeo.
 
I also feel more and more like the 'attack' that Trump called off was a fiction.

I don't think it was fiction in that I believe we did have planes in the air and ships ready to launch missiles. However, I don't think there was any real intent to carry out a strike. I think it was more of a show of force in an attempt to scare the Iranians by letting them know just how quickly and how hard we can strike them.
 
I don't think it was fiction in that I believe we did have planes in the air and ships ready to launch missiles. However, I don't think there was any real intent to carry out a strike. I think it was more of a show of force in an attempt to scare the Iranians by letting them know just how quickly and how hard we can strike them.
I can believe that.
 
So, in other words. The US military is Shaking it's fist menacingly at them.
 
And the Iranians mooned him back.
 
so , it was surprising to see UAE claiming they didn't have reliable evidence that Iran did it . Was inclined to think that Hafter in Libya was losing control of his American saddled offensive and UAE would like some Russian help . Turns out the wife of the Emir of Dubai has left home , being daughter of King Hussein of Jordan . Obviously a bad mark against me and naturally despite ı didn't . When ı say a surprising aspect of the Ottoman defeat in Syria in 1918 is the German machine gun detachments that kept the integrity of the Ottoman remnants , so that Mustafa Kemal and his colleagues could shape them into a coherent force as soon as practicable and whatnot , this means we have forgiven the Hashemites and whatnot ? And guess what , ı had a ransomware thing on Friday as well . Also in the news , because they are naturally related , Hafter now claims he will fight New Turkey , according to the Trablus Goverment , so that New Turkey can go and make Jihad in Libya on behalf of Trablus Goverment -after a "drone" of New Turkey was bombed in some airfield in Libya . Also fully relevant that Trump makes "peace" with New Turkey and ı naturally blame Stuntwoman for the fact that Trump described the entourage of the PM in G20 summit as so" beautiful" that such a line up could not be realized by Hollywood . See , talking leads nowhere , ı should really be cleared to going orbital on people .
 
oh kay , where to start ? Perhaps from a thing that ı checked for suitable threads and failed to find any . Today's frontpage of the former pinnacle of yellow journalism in the country is half covered with a feature on the S-400 , the headline being We went, We Saw ... Then a note that the Russian Name is Triumph , which then makes this a great victory on New Rome hence America hence New Turkey defeats everyone on the globe , but the defeated might take umbrage at being defeated so New Turkey goes and defeats Julius Ceasar , who is like dead for 2000 and 50 years or thereabouts . Like S-400 can be fired from a 10 metre wide street while evil Patrioy needs a football field are 'cause it goes out on a 45 degree angle . As if "we" will be placing outselves inside collateral damage zones to prevent being bombed to hell . In the coming war , American troops will be emplacing themselves in mosques and Islamic shrines in addition to churches to cover themselves .


do we need S-400 ? It begins with the Disgrace of July 15th , when Americans noticed the snot eater heroes of Congregation had bombed anywhere but the PM's palace , so the the last bomb went like miles off and like damaged the police box at the very gate . So , the PM decided he needed SAMs , just like any Arabian palace has one . And instead of short range stuff , he went out to buy the biggest . Russians of course DO WANT us to believe it's in our interests and what , especially after Trump claimed he likes the PM , no doubt after the promise to buy 100 new Boeings . As such Israelis naturally attack the Syrians and Russian SAM naturally misses and flies all the way and like crashes in Northern Cyprus . When we will have a need to defend the nuclear power station in Akkuyu , we will have much better means , like scrapping it immediately now that a Russian and a bottle of vodka is a terrible risk . Do not make it to a point where the official intent will be a sentence that has S-400 and the verb shove together . Now that after the 100 Boeings America is not satisfied and threatens us not to activate the S-400s and keep in storage so that they can dissect them in espionage , after this country spent 2.5 billion US dollars to buy them . And we gotta buy Patriots or they will put sanctions into effect , the very same the threat of which was supposed to stop us buying the S-400s in the first place . Loop of the day ; Do not make it to a point where the official intent will be a sentence that has S-400 and the verb shove together .

ı would blame the Stuntwoman , but this is not a joke with the casualties and all that . Now that the essense is claiming things that didn't happen . And as Americans do not have the mental prowess to process , out of the emergency meeting of Trump and his Veep , the only reaction will be bragging that they destroyed the super secret Russian sub to prevent Putin messing in the 2020 elections , because as we all know , the entire web traffic of the world is actually transferred from Fairfax County to places through a cable that lies under the Russian territorial waters . Bah , to think Americans would have a Russian rocket adding to the celebrations of Fourth of July . If one wants something , one does it on one's own ...
 
I'm watching Jimmy Dore talking about Syria and Iran and he said Qatar wants to build a pipeline thru SA, Jordan, Syria and Turkey. Russia opposes the pipeline cuz it will cut into their profits supplying Europe with energy. So their buddy Assad in Syria said nope, aint going thru Syria. And thats about when we got gung ho about toppling Assad and why Russia came to Assad's defense.
 
I'm watching Jimmy Dore talking about Syria and Iran and he said Qatar wants to build a pipeline thru SA, Jordan, Syria and Turkey. Russia opposes the pipeline cuz it will cut into their profits supplying Europe with energy. So their buddy Assad in Syria said nope, aint going thru Syria. And thats about when we got gung ho about toppling Assad and why Russia came to Assad's defense.

Leviathan gas field says hello ?
Its the Middle east Berzerker you know what kind of mindfield / powder keg the entire region is. Iran wants to also build a pipeline through to Europe, Russia wants to build new pipelines to bypass Ukraine and Kazistain wants a pipeline to the EU as well. Qatar could simply repair the old Trans-Arabian pipeline and then ship from Lebanon to the EU. But they wont because of the Leviathan gas fields, Qatar better off building a pipeline to India instead

(and paying a Billion in bribes to Kushner because protection money)
 
the pipeline issues are really old . And they are really irrelevant in a way, now that they are remembered once again to cover for the thing that the West has failed to defeat Damascus and they cover it with foreign meddling . If Leviathan is the thing off Cyprus , Qatar is a major player there already , a thing you know in this country only you are "Opposition" .

people might have noticed "this is a war fought on Thursdays" . The first impressed anyone with brains , second had Iranians "downing" an American thing in or out of territorial waters , which had the natural effect on Trump (to back down) . Americans waited and waited and when seeing nothing was happening declared it was evil Iraqis who used frones to attack some Saudi pipeline , because Yemenis are Stone Age khat chewers and Baghdad was showing reluctance anyhow , as if Trump had a will to fight Iran left . The fourth Thursday sees the Brits , the essential pals and friends and allies of America proving they can indeed capture a ship on the high seas , apparently unlike the first Thursday . UAE attack on a refugee center in Libya , because you know there's bound to be people who feel sorry for refugees in this world -however infinitesimal the probability- and we then hear some UAE Prince has died in an orji with escort women , see , not woman , apparently due to overdose and one can only get surprised it's like a full 20 years after his older brother was also dead . In London , again .


and ı blame the Stuntwoman , because it's obviously her fault that ı wasn't aware that the line "Hollywood can't find such beauties" is sarcastic or whatever . ı thought Trump had used to say some one thing positive about the PM and his entourage in the G-20 Summit . In which he mocked the PM and New Turkey clearly showing he had full control on them and they did whatever he told 'em to . The PM , after hints that even that wasn't cool , declared he was happy with Trump's comments on the New Turkey team because PM is an equal of Trump and in New Turkey no one has the same stature with PM , so , like why ? Even better is the way the New Turkey tried to insult Trump . You see , they are meeting : ten people on one side and ten on the other and Americans have notebooks out , recording the things the PM says but nobody records Trump , because you know a day will come when Trump is nothing , just like Obama became a nothing when he was no longer the US President . Brickhead himself (a Turkish journalist dude) tweets why New Turkey has no notebooks , and soon adds two are actually taking notes . A storm ensues , this is conspiracy , this is an attack and 3 days later a new picture arrives showing every single one in New Turkey team are taking notes , in contrast maybe half in the American team , and the picture was published on the first day by the White House , because Trump wants us to know everything he says is important ; and if he was to belch or frt , that would change the course of this country in an heartbeat .

you know , from UAE to New Turkey , this is the human potential to conduct Jihad on Iran , now that Americans do not like boots on the ground and even gods of war are like weary , without a million American boots to be blown up and buried down and whatnot in their name , Kurds , the gods of war . And Putin , as one would expect from the percentage he takes from weapon sales and whatnot , declares he has many interesting projects and things going on with New Turkey . Not forgetting a gas pipeline in the Black Sea . We will see how long that pipeline will last .

and oh , this is fully relevant ı guess , now that if the most stealthy Russian sub is now a mess , from the VE Day parades stuff , linked in the Clown Car thread today

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and guess what , am not laughing either .
 
I'm watching Jimmy Dore talking about Syria and Iran and he said Qatar wants to build a pipeline thru SA, Jordan, Syria and Turkey. Russia opposes the pipeline cuz it will cut into their profits supplying Europe with energy. So their buddy Assad in Syria said nope, aint going thru Syria. And thats about when we got gung ho about toppling Assad and why Russia came to Assad's defense.
The pipeline story is most likely a consequence of Russian support, not the reason for it. Qatar/SA and Assad have many other reasons not to like each other.

Russia, by the way, is likely going to stop using Ukrainian pipelines for EU gas transit after opening of Nord Stream 2 by the end of this year. Some of Ukraine politicians believe Europe should compensate them 2 billions USD annually which they aren't going to get from Russia any longer.
 
Over to you EU27?

USD 2 Billion to be paid to the government ?
Ukraine is just too corrupt to expect from me a nice reaction on behalf of the EU-27
 
USD 2 Billion to be paid to the government ?
Ukraine is just too corrupt to expect from me a nice reaction on behalf of the EU-27

There is a moral issue, though: some in the Eu pretended (assured) the Ukrainian government that it would be backed if it moved away from Russia. This may seem like just another political game, but it cost Ukraine one of its regions (Crimea), so it is hardly a small issue.
I said from the first instant that Ukraine was being played, much like Georgia was before it.
 
There is a moral issue, though: some in the Eu pretended (assured) the Ukrainian government that it would be backed if it moved away from Russia. This may seem like just another political game, but it cost Ukraine one of its regions (Crimea), so it is hardly a small issue.
I said from the first instant that Ukraine was being played, much like Georgia was before it.

For me the story goes back to 2000 or shortly thereafter.
The way I understand that start:
Ukraine, but also Georgia, Estonia, and other former satellites have cheap natural gas contracts and prices from before Soviet collapse.
Russia wants to increase price to market price of Europe.
And why not ?
Countries want to be independent from Russia... countries get price of independent countries... the market price.
Everywhere turmoil during years.
Ukraine threatens to close gas valve for gas to EU countries. No gas for EU, no money for Russia.
Russia closes valve.
Ukraine "secretly" taps Russian gas for domestic purposes, but EU does not get gas.

The EU economy cannot have such risks on gas supply and a couple of years later the Nord Stream 1 pipeline is signed off in Moscow.

It is ofc so that you can see that Russian price increase moves to former satellites as punishment, as interfering in domestic politics etc. But this is about not getting favors anymore.
And this start of the story happens in 2003-2005 or so. The Crimean affair is still far away. All kinds of economical cooperations are active between EU and Russia.

Ukraine is a rogue nation-state and not fit as partner for something crucial as gas supply for EU countries.
 
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