When did feminism go completely crazy?

[gay_Aleks]

Yes, but that's not the topic at hand.

 

[caketastydelish]

If any of you think Feminism is crazy, take a look at the MRA's; some of whom believe in legalising rape on public property; that most rapes are false, that believe in voting not guilty for all men accused of rape (jury nullification) regardless if the evidence shows they did commit said act, that women are "sperm jackers" etc.

What about the people (which are the majority of americans) which neither identify as feminist or MRA but simply believe in equality of the sexes?

 

[JollyRoger]

Yeah! I give in. Tell me what I should think on this issue. Right now. I'm fed up to the back teeth with not knowing.

1. Get a female intimate partner
2. Ask her what you should think on the issue
3. ???
4. Profit

I realize the flaw in my advice for some here is Step 1.

 

[jackelgull]

I don't think I buy that analogy. Men are a dominant group, women are a non-dominant group; African-Americans and Asian-Americans are both non-dominant groups. That changes the dynamic pretty fundamentally.

Males are a dominant group yes. But that dominant status also interacts quite complicatedly with a host of other statuses. For example, let's take a look at the poor black male. He is a male, a part of a privileged class. But his blackness mars his privilege as a male and it adds a strange extra effect on him- to whites, he reminds them of the stereotypical thug. Thus his male privilege adds a negative stereotype onto him. It is also the same reason that you can't look at a black female and separate her femaleness from her blackness. She's experienced sexism and racism but probably in different ways from which a white woman has experienced sexism, or way from which a black man has experienced racism.

I'm just saying things are more complicated then you make them out to be. A rich white women is not underprivileged compared to a poor black male. Or at least, I don't think that is how it works.

 

[Borachio]

<Gah! What's up with the CFC server at the moment? It's gone nuts on me!>

 

[Borachio]

1. Get a female intimate partner
2. Ask her what you should think on the issue
3. ???
4. Profit

I realize the flaw in my advice for some here is Step 1.

Step 2 is flawed as well. There's really no need to ask.

In fact, asking wastes precious time that would be more profitably spent in listening.

But there's no need for me to tell you this. She'll tell you herself soon enough.

 

[gay_Aleks]

1. Get a female intimate partner
2. Ask her what you should think on the issue
3. ???
4. Profit

I realize the flaw in my advice for some here is Step 1.

I'm struggling at Step 3. I can't find any chloroform, and since a certain accident no sane pharmacist gives me roofies.

 

[caketastydelish]

1. Get a female intimate partner
2. Ask her what you should think on the issue
3. ???
4. Profit

I realize the flaw in my advice for some here is Step 1.

See, more mudsligning. "men that don't identify as feminists are just guys that can't get laid". What about women (the majority of american women, actually 77% of them) that don't identify as feminist either? They "can't get laid" too?

Although anti-feminists say male feminists only become so in a desperate attempt to make themselves more attractive to females.

You know what I say? It's all dog poop. Either discuss the issue of feminism at hand at face value of what is, or don't discuss it at all. Everybody wants to depend on Ad-homen attacks against the other side instead of discuss anything.

 

[useless]

What about the people (which are the majority of americans) which neither identify as feminist or MRA but simply believe in equality of the sexes?

How can you get equality if you don't even acknowledge the lack of it between the genders? It's all good to say "I believe in equality!" but if you refuse to acknowledge there's a clear disparity between the way males are treated by society compared to females, whats the point? It's just useless lip service.

 

[gay_Aleks]

By the looks of it, approximately 66% of the population cannot get laid with the opposite sex.

Apparently the only reason the population is seeing increases is due to one-night stands and illegal immigrants.

 

[JollyRoger]

And illegitimate rape.

 

[Narz]

Trapping somebody alone in an elevator with you will eventually come out as being fine, but it's the rebuffable social advance that just a bridge too far man.

Anyway who rides in the elevator with me is honored, not trapped. And, fwiw, if I notice the person (male or female) is getting off @ floor five I will introduce myself because I like to know my neighbors. No one's been a weirdo about it yet. I might not even say hi @ 4am tho I probably would. I wouldn't invite them over of course, especially for coffee which is disgusting.

There is a fine line between creepy & friendly, if u can't trust yourself to even get in an elevator with a woman your probably on the creepy side (tho self-aware at least)

 

[JollyRoger]

At 4 am, I am saying bye and pointing her to the elevator.

 

[caketastydelish]

How can you get equality if you don't even acknowledge the lack of it between the genders? It's all good to say "I believe in equality!" but if you refuse to acknowledge there's a clear disparity between the way males are treated by society compared to females, whats the point? It's just useless lip service.

Just say it already, anyone and everyone which doesn't identify as "feminist" is already an MRA by default.

 

[Narz]

At 4 am, I am saying bye and pointing her to the elevator.

Not me, I like snuggling, unless she snores (tho its never bern an issue, most healthy weight women don't snore)

 

[Borachio]

I must have been very unlucky then! The three healthiest-weight women I've ever known snored like good 'uns.

 

[Narz]

How can you get equality if you don't even acknowledge the lack of it between the genders? It's all good to say "I believe in equality!" but if you refuse to acknowledge there's a clear disparity between the way males are treated by society compared to females, whats the point? It's just useless lip service.

Of course issues should be acknowledged & discussed with solutions in mind. However, people mostly seem to prefer drama & inflammatory click bait style reporting about issues rather than seeking consensus or solutions.

 

[Narz]

I must have been very unlucky then! The three healthiest-weight women I've ever known snored like good 'uns.

Maybe they had breathing issues or were smokers?

 

[Borachio]

Sure. Sure. Snoring is certainly a breathing issue.

 

[Commodore]

I'd say feminism went crazy when they started thinking things like "manspreading" were serious issues affecting women. Warning: the following video contains NSFW language.


Link to video.