Which book are you reading now? Volume XI

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but it doesn't always feel like particularly good literature beyond that

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this comment.

Anyway, I've found another Blackwell Companion to History, this time on Japan. It's good to hear about different views on history, especially with the older ones being superseded by newer scholarship.
 
1984 was a snooze fest. I found it difficult to stomach the rigidness and lifelessness of the book. Ray Bradbury said that "good writers touch life often," but honestly I haven't read many books that touch life less often than 1984.

I also literally lol'd when I read that quote in Fahrenheit 451 because that book was absolutely devoid of life as well. People didn't talk, they preached, and who does that in real life? Absolutely no one.

I know those books were trying to make a point about something, but that doesn't make them read any better. They read awful.
 
The point is about reflecting the lifelessness of the world they are set in, methinks. I liked them both.
 
The point is about reflecting the lifelessness of the world they are set in, methinks. I liked them both.
there's a point to be made there about malice and incompetence
 
Well, what I mean by lifelessness is that the character's dialogue and actions don't reflect what anyone would do or say in real life. It's not so much that the books are depressing, it's that the books are absolutely unrealistic in the way that the characters act.
 
Dialogue is often unrealistic in books and films for the simple reason that, you know, it doesn't make sense... I mean, it doesn't sound convincing to have characters on the sc-*sneeze* talk as we do in *mumble*. That said, I do think it helps if actions in general seem plausible, although they're usually forced by extraordinary circumstances: most books don't 'work' if the only explanation for the plot is 'the author made it so', and indeed the very best works of literature have been analysed as if their characters were real people, with no regard for the author at all.
 
I always wanted a TV show or movie where dialogue is stunted and often takes random directions.
 
There are a few out there; Home Movies springs to mind.

I finished my prior two books and I'm starting on Freedom from Fear by David Kennedy, the Oxford History of the US entry covering 1929 to 1945.
 
I also literally lol'd when I read that quote in Fahrenheit 451 because that book was absolutely devoid of life as well. People didn't talk, they preached, and who does that in real life? Absolutely no one.
I know those books were trying to make a point about something, but that doesn't make them read any better. They read awful.

Ooh, have you read any Ayn Rand?
 
I'm half way through "on such a full sea". Excellent novel of a dystopian American future.
 
As far as physical books go, I'm currently about a third of the way through F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom. (I recently finished his The Fatal Conceit, which was not as good as I expected. This book seems somewhat better, but that might only be because my expectations were lowered.)

The other two library books on my nightstand which I'm planning to read next are Frank Herbert's Hellstrom's Hive and Susanna Clarke's Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell (which an old friend recommended as one of her all time favorite novels).


I'm also in the middle of listening to a Librivox recording of G.K. Chesterton's Utopia of Userers, having just finished listening to his Orthodoxy.

(I downloaded about 40 other works from Librivox today too, mostly either by Chesterton or Shakespeare. I had tried to download many of these before, but the website has been really buggy for several weeks. Today I discovered that the problems only seem to happen in Firefox, not in Google Chrome.)
 
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I'd appreciate my writing being reviewed.
 
The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History - Elizabeth Kolbert: Solid book which gets across a lot of basic biological concepts across in a readable way.
And the Band Played On: Politics, People and the and the AIDS Epidemic - Randy Shilts: Fantastically well written and documented.
Why I left Goldman Sachs: A Wall Street Story - Greg Smith: Remember that GS employee who wrote an op-ed about how morally bankrupt GS was? Well this is his book. And oh man oh man is it amusing (for me at least).

I'll be reading Bulgakov's White Guard next.

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As far as physical books go, I'm currently about a third of the way through F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom. (I recently finished his The Fatal Conceit, which was not as good as I expected. This book seems somewhat better, but that might only be because my expectations were lowered.)
did you expect awful and got absolutely awful instead?
 
I always wanted a TV show or movie where dialogue is stunted and often takes random directions.

David Mamet's plays - of which Glengarry Glen Ross, or Death of a [Bloody] Salesman, was adapted into a film - feature a distinctive style of dialogue in which characters frequently talk over each other, finish each other's sentences, and generally break down the usual artificiality of speech on stage. They also swear quite a lot.

I would echo TF's judgement below on Raising Steam, as well as quite a few of the more recent Discworld books - Unseen Academicals being the prime offender. I think it's probably getting to the stage where he can't write easily write an original, funny and moving book any more by virtue of simply having used up all of the available material - Snuff would be a notable exception, but I still have yet to read a Discworld book to compare with Night Watch or Wyrd Sisters.

I've read two rather intellectual books lately. The first was CR Whittaker's Frontiers of the Roman Empire: A Social and Economic Study, which is quite technical and occasionally stretched my rusty Latin but was uniformly intelligent and extremely well-written - it was developed from a lecture series, and that shows through in the clarity. The main thesis of it was that Roman frontiers weren't defensive lines as we would understand something like the inter-Korean border, but rather quite permeable things with the soldiers there usually intended to monitor and tax people coming through rather than keep them out. This meant that there wasn't a defined line where 'Romans' stopped and 'barbarians' began, but rather a large area in which Roman and foreign ways of life coexisted. Indeed, it was frequently hard to tell exactly who was 'Roman' and who was a 'barbarian'!

The second was Michael Baxandall's Painting and Experience in Fifteenth-Century Italy, also informative and scholarly although occasionally the writing lapsed, meaning that I had to read over a few sentences a couple of times to understand them. The book's argument is that painting is a guide to the society that produces it, and Baxandall comes up with a large amount of contextual information about the relationships between artists and clients in Italy, as well as the general cultural background of artists, clients and viewers, to illustrate the point. For example, he found a manual advising preachers on the gestures to use to convey certain emotions, then showed how this information can be used to get a deeper understanding of certain paintings. I had almost no foreknowledge of Renaissance art, but it's sufficiently well illustrated to be manageable, although the flurry of names does get confusing.
 
Finished Raising Steam by Terry Pratchett. It was... not great? Sort of aimless. Pratchett's plotting has never been his strongest point, but this one just sort of meandered around the place until it bumped into a conclusion without any pay-off, and unlike some of his earlier books with the same problem, the humour wasn't strong enough nor the characters endearing enough to rescue it. Not bad, but, disappointing.

(I've also been reading parts of a bunch of non-fiction books, but none of them completely. So I don't get to boast about it here. Fiddlesticks. :undecide:)
 
I borrowed two books from the library:

-Constantine Caratheodory's epistles to the uni of Gottingen

-Collection of stories with the theme of Monsters (Lovecraft and some other writers).
 
As far as physical books go, I'm currently about a third of the way through F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom. (I recently finished his The Fatal Conceit, which was not as good as I expected. This book seems somewhat better, but that might only be because my expectations were lowered.)

I read Road to Serfdom a little over a year ago, and found it thought-provoking. I've got The Fatal Conceit checked out now. What's your take on him? I used to be on the social-progressive side, but after seeing the unintended consequences of subsidies on urbanism, agriculture, transportation, etc, I've grown suspicious of interventionism in general. Now my old left-libertarianism includes bit of respect for the market. :lol:
 
Not "insane", no. That would absolve her of responsibility for her output.
 
did you expect awful and got absolutely awful instead?

That's about what I thought of the excerpt I read online. Was so unimpressed I didn't bother to pick up the full book.

I read Road to Serfdom a little over a year ago, and found it thought-provoking. I've got The Fatal Conceit checked out now. What's your take on him? I used to be on the social-progressive side, but after seeing the unintended consequences of subsidies on urbanism, agriculture, transportation, etc, I've grown suspicious of interventionism in general. Now my old left-libertarianism includes bit of respect for the market. :lol:

I wouldn't necessarily call subsidies the hallmark of social-progressivism. The commons problem is a beast entirely on its own.
 
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