Why do you think I've referred to acts than persons in all the objections I've made to behaviours in this discussion. Also Thlayli you do realise that the Pope was referring to those of homosexual inclination who live chastely and fervently strive to live in accordance with the teachings of the Church when he said "who am I to judge". It is perfectly biblical and Christian to condemn actions people take to encourage those people who are acting immorally to repent (1 Timothy 5:20, Luke 17:3) @Erez Its a logical contradiction since it extends to everything anyone could possibly do. If you hold to any moral standards at all beyond condemning people who disagree with your libertinism as intolerant that in any way rest on the intrinsic nature of the action (rather than so long as people consent), than your own position renders you hypocritical when you condemn them. In fact your own condemnation of people who disagree with your radical libertinism is a contradiction, since if condemnation of a persons agency freely undertaken is immoral, you have no basis for condemning me for saying I disagree with you and find your moral positions repulsive and inhuman. Incidentally if you do indeed define yourself by your sexual inclinations (sex is something one does, not something one is) that's a very shallow self-conception you have.