Who are you/would you vote for and why?

[Grendeldef]

I would vote for Obama not because I particularly like him but I really dislike Romney and what he represents. With some extra effort put into searching I might find a candidate that I'd actually support but there's still a slight chance that lost vote for Obama would get Romney the office.

Romney to me is a prototype of a modern politician which makes him obsolete. Instead of having positions on matters which people may or may not like he has views which reflect the supposed views of the group he's hoping to get votes from any given time. Instead of him there could just be a machine agreeing whatever is leading on polls.

I'd very interested to see how someone radically different like Christopher Hitchens would mess up the pack. I disagree with him on several matters but I'd assume that any decision made by him would be a result of some rational process rather than agreeing with some poll. Obviously there would be some difficulties to actually vote for him due to his citizenship at birth and him being slightly dead amongst others.

G

 

[Leifmk]

Well, as a middle-of-the-road Scandinavian, it's a pretty certain thing that out of the two real US parties, it would be completely impossible to ever consider voting for a Republican candidate [1], if I had the right to vote there. So I'd be holding my nose and voting for the Democrat. Until and unless there was a sea change in politics comparable to what happened around the 1960s or something.

[1] Well, at least for national office. Local politics is a different animal and you might like some guy for Mayor of your city or something even though he was affiliated with a completely repugnant national party.

 

[Grendeldef]

Quite so. Actually I think that one has to be quite an extremist right winger or value religious beliefs far above anything else to vote for a Republican. Also I can't see this to be changed in near future without political reform, mainly the voting system. After all, UK has just passed the bi-polar system & they have a head start of few centuries.

Local elections are, of course, a different matter. With a very limited voting base virtually any lunatic can get elected and if he/she becomes a self-proclaimed prophet of any religion it might be a way to prosperity as well.

G

 

[warpus]

I would vote for Obama because no other candidate has a chance and Romney is

1. an idiot

2. an opportunist

3. has a broken or non-existent moral compass

 

[GhostWriter16]

Quite so. Actually I think that one has to be quite an extremist right winger or value religious beliefs far above anything else to vote for a Republican. Also I can't see this to be changed in near future without political reform, mainly the voting system. After all, UK has just passed the bi-polar system & they have a head start of few centuries.

Local elections are, of course, a different matter. With a very limited voting base virtually any lunatic can get elected and if he/she becomes a self-proclaimed prophet of any religion it might be a way to prosperity as well.

G

Not necessarily. The only issues where they really differ is the economy anyway...

 

[Leoreth]

Who is "they"?

 

[Grendeldef]

Not necessarily. The only issues where they really differ is the economy anyway...

I was talking from Finnish pov although it's probably how the Scandinavian countries view it as well.

From here the Democrats appear as extreme right wingers with religious tendencies and the Republicans as right wing nut cases who wants God to be in charge of everything. A bit over the top description but you'll get point. Unless something changes radically this view is gonna stick for a while. Therefore one who would vote a Republican here would be most likely labeled as right extremist or religious extremist if his/her vote was based on religion. Generally, in our politics religion is a non-issue.

To get a perspective my left/right value on Political Compass was something like -4,7 but here in Finland in terms leftist & right winger on scale from -10 to +10 I'd probably be around +7. I've soften up my views slightly over the years. People who want to take the banks for instance under government control are somewhere around -9,5.

People tend to like things like health care, education etc to be paid in form of taxes.

G

 

[Antilogic]

It is easily possible. In fact it has been done in the past.
I am not allowed to explain how, because it upsets the mods

Yeah, when we had unrestricted immigration and no silly quotas from foreign countries (so long as you were white, according to the 1790 Act). =)





So, many of the reasons dictating my vote have already been mentioned, mostly negatives on the Republicans (on everything from denial of basic science and mathematics, theocratic governance, irresponsible and vague "planning", lack of a serious economic policy, no industrial or infrastructure policies by design, blustering and incompetence on foreign policy, avoidance of tackling sustainability and green issues, avoidance of tackling tough national security issues, general misunderstanding of the Constitution and how laws work, anti-voter laws, generally misanthropic and dickish behavior, etc. the list goes on). I don't particularly like Obama, but I'm still probably going to be pull the lever for him while muttering under my breath "please don't eff me again..."

I really yearn for the days of the Eisenhower Republican party and wish we had serious third parties with wider bases and the ability to win seats (Greens, Socialists, and Libertarians come to mind)--then, I'd have some more serious choices to make.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

I don't think that there are any Geoist candidates running, so I'll vote for the Libertarian even though he isn't as libertarian as I'd like either.

 

[GhostWriter16]

I too think Gary is the best option available. I much preferred Ron Paul.

Its actually the life issue that is my biggest reason for preferring Ron over Gary in my case. But with the Republican apathy towards the issue and their support for a warfare prone police state I cannot possibly support Mitt Romney. And with Obama pretending to be a left-wing version of the same, I DEFINITELY cannot support Barrack Obama.

 

[W|M]

If I were eligible to vote here, I would vote for Felipe Peixoto.

 

[ZeletDude]

I would vote for Obama, because I disagree with Romney on nearly every issue

Not that my vote would count in Idaho or anything stupid like that

 

[Core Imposter]

As I said many times in the section of the forum in which I no longer post, I am sitting this one out because both of the candidates are far too liberal. I might vote for Ryan when he grows up.

 

[Ailedhoo]

As I said many times in the section of the forum in which I no longer post, I am sitting this one out because both of the candidates are far too liberal. I might vote for Ryan when he grows up.

Excus me?

Mitt liberal?

...is this some joke?

 

[Antilogic]

Excus me?

Mitt liberal?

...is this some joke?

Dude... you got some catching up to do. Mr. Cooper is notorious for his extreme right stance on the issues.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Excus me?

Mitt liberal?

...is this some joke?

I wouldn't say "Liberal" but certainly moderate by US standards when it comes to the economy. He's still praising the ACA he just (If he can be trusted) wants to see it oon a state and not federal level.

On social, foreign, and civil liberties issues? That's a different story. He's definitely a Republican on those.

 

[Ondskan]

I would flee your country and settle in Canada or if I had enough money I would vote for Romney, buy stocks in the chinese companies he has bought and have a home ready in Barbados.

Or maybe I would just move to the south or something and live of the land as a farmer.

 

[Ondskan]

I don't think that there are any Geoist candidates running, so I'll vote for the Libertarian even though he isn't as libertarian as I'd like either.

Geoism is a facinating theory but difficult to organize. Overfishing, forest devastation, mines clogging up with prospectors. It would need tight regulation. But it might work somewhat even without it. At least for some time. (or if you want the version with taxes then the difficulty of valuing land).

 

[JollyRoger]

Romney has stated positions to the left of Obama's actual performance. I am of the opnion that it makes them both righties, not lefties.

 

[Cutlass]

As I said many times in the section of the forum in which I no longer post, I am sitting this one out because both of the candidates are far too liberal. I might vote for Ryan when he grows up.

Clearly you still need work on the definitions of liberal and conservative.