Who Needs Pluto Anyway?

[Berzerker]

cant say Pluto is unique, but it is a double planet - basically a larger body was split in 2 (maybe) with both bodies orbiting each other lock 'n step after the trauma that caused the disruption.

 

[Fr8monkey]

This picture explains a lot of what's wrong with America today.

I think this needs an explanation...

 

[Mathalamus]

a planet 4 times larger than Jupiter, farther away from Pluto is impossible. there jsut isnt enough stuff out there to make a gas giant that large. not to mention it would register on half the scientific equipment, even at a distance. moreover, such a large planet would have been found hundreds of years ago since it is much MUCH bigger than Pluto.

my conclusion: Planet not found. try again.

 

[Berzerker]

thats assuming it was originally part of our nebula... It could be debris ejected from a nearby supernova after our solar system formed. Maybe the same supernova that caused the collapse of our nebula... But I dont think it would a gas giant, just a more dense object loaded with the heavy stuff produced by supernovas.

 

[sophie]

a planet 4 times larger than Jupiter, farther away from Pluto is impossible. there jsut isnt enough stuff out there to make a gas giant that large. not to mention it would register on half the scientific equipment, even at a distance. moreover, such a large planet would have been found hundreds of years ago since it is much MUCH bigger than Pluto.

my conclusion: Planet not found. try again.

Nothing in this statement makes any sense whatsoever.

Argument incoherent. Try again.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

a planet 4 times larger than Jupiter, farther away from Pluto is impossible. there jsut isnt enough stuff out there to make a gas giant that large. not to mention it would register on half the scientific equipment, even at a distance. moreover, such a large planet would have been found hundreds of years ago since it is much MUCH bigger than Pluto.

my conclusion: Planet not found. try again.

Uranus and Neptune are much MUCH bigger than Pluto, and they weren't discovered until well after the astronomical telescope was discovered. Can you see those planets with the unaided eye?

Didn't think so.

 

[Mathalamus]

you can see those planets, with the right conditions.

 

[Bill3000]

a planet 4 times larger than Jupiter, farther away from Pluto is impossible. there jsut isnt enough stuff out there to make a gas giant that large.

Planets can migrate from their initial orbits, you know. In fact, this was likely to have happened with Uranus and Neptune; the orbits flipped.

Spoiler :

Or extrasolar capture.

 

[Dachs]

woo extrasolar capture?

Cyllene is within the "frost line" of its parent star, where gas giants do not normally form.

disclaimer: this is not supposed to insinuate that this proposed planet x is either an extrasolar capture [possible] or within the frost line of sol [impossible]; it is a mass effect reference and NOTHING MORE

 

[Berzerker]

If we moved the Earth to the asteroid belt, the planets would follow a 2:1 ratio with each planet ~2x further from the Sun than its closer in neighbor. That breaks down as we get further out, Neptune is not 2x Uranus' distance. Saturn's rings point to Pluto near its perihelion when its about 2 x Saturn's distance from the Sun (its 4 x that distance at aphelion).

But if these researchers are looking at cometary orbits, then this hypothetical planet would almost need to be an extra-solar capture on a highly inclined orbit because it would not have formed along the ecliptic or solar equatorial plane.

 

[Haseri]

Obviously, it's the Mass Relay. Bioware merely got it wrong when they said it was Charon.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

you can see those planets, with the right conditions.

And what conditions would those be, besides absolutely clear viewing and absolutely perfect eyesight? And that's just for Uranus; I did read that a few people with extraordinary eyesight could see it without a telescope. But if the ancients could have seen them (or known what they were looking at), they would have documented them.

They didn't, so they couldn't.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

you can see those planets, with the right conditions.

The conditions in question being: in possession of a spyglass and knowing beforehand where to look.

You realize that at Pluto's distance, the Sun appears the size of any other star? If the Sun is that big from that far away, just how big to do expect a planet much smaller than the Sun to appear to us at four times that distance?

 

[Mathalamus]

no. at plutos distance, the sun would be a lot brighter and larger than any other star.

and, i admit that you guys are right. and i am wrong. i guess i didnt make any sense and im babbling like a monkey.

 

[GenMarshall]

 

[Mathalamus]

nearly everyone was around in 2006. that only applies if tis 2050 or something.

 

[GenMarshall]

What if Pluto was promoted by then?

There are a lot of things we don't know whats going to happen between now and then .

 

[Japanrocks12]

I think this needs an explanation...

Sure. Fanatics who, when something doesn't go there way, come up with a completely implausible scenario in retribution and get laughed at by everyone else.

Alternatively, more positively, some pretty hilarious satire if it is indeed that.

 

[Brohz]

Even if an object at that distance woud not reflect that much light from the sun, it is hard to believe it has not been discovered, as it would be certainly more visible than many things observed (gas clouds, etc).

 

[sophie]

nearly everyone was around in 2006. that only applies if tis 2050 or something.

You're missing the point. Again.

What it means is that when you are 19, and you see a 6 year old walking around you can say, WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE PLUTO WAS A PLANET HAR HAR HAR!