Why do people get so personal about defending evolution?
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brennan
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It's ludicrously easy to falsify evolution. All you have to do is find the wrong fossils in any given strata.
After all, the flood can't have perfectly sorted every single fossil, surely?)
If it works in any way at all, and it's the best we've got, then that's a pretty good defence of a scientific theory, actually!
People were aware of problems with e.g. field renormalization for many decades before Wilson fixed it with the Renormalization Group in 1970's. By your standard all of quantum mechanics should have been abandoned in the early 1940's, and you wouldn't have a computer to write on!
That's untrue as there are already misplaced fossils. They are just explain away just as in the case of pollen, spores and vascular plants found in the Cambrian and Pre-Cambrian.
Even the discovery of multi-genetic codes did nothing to falsify universal common descent.
brennan
Argumentative Brit
Links?
By 'explained away' do you mean, perfectly well explained but you don't like it, or is there a genuine issue?
By 'explained away' do you mean, perfectly well explained but you don't like it, or is there a genuine issue?
here one I found http://homepage.mac.com/icicle9/RMSbis/Pollen in Roraima.htm I don't remember all the ones I've read.
bob bobato
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Because they're over-emotional freaks who care about completely un-important and irrelevant things (evolution doesn't change our lives, and we'll never see it happen). Or because they really hate religion and try to attack it whenever they could.
brennan
Argumentative Brit
Sorry, didn't notice you'd replied:
Um, that's from 1964. What's the current state of things?
Um, that's from 1964. What's the current state of things?
mangxema
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Actually, you can, given a short enough lifespan. Remember those new strains of viruses that are now immune to the drugs we used to treat them with? How do you think that happened?
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Yes, it is far more likely that these aliens will be Christian and that they will bring the KJV Bible so they can read to us from Genesis.
Wouldn't it blow your mind if they did? . . . 
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Wouldn't it blow your mind if they did? . . .
That would be quite an amusing intergalactic prank
Wouldn't it blow your mind if they did? . . .
We're not going to fall for the burning bush technique so easily this time!
Blimey. With a response like that, I'm wondering if the question should be Why do people get so personal about attacking evolution.
And why do I defend the theory of evolution by natural selection with such vigor, if it is about attacking religion?
I think it's because you're a glutton for punishment
I does change our lives. ToE allows us to make predictions about things we haven't discovered yet, and then we know where to look next. Amazingly, it works. Just like looking for rocks on Mars.
I does change our lives. ToE allows us to make predictions about things we haven't discovered yet, and then we know where to look next. Amazingly, it works. Just like looking for rocks on Mars.
Actually, he didn't say that ToE didn't change our lives, but that evolution itself doesn't - a much greater claim, and even more problematic. Because, like, all current biodiversity exists as a result.
Mmm . . . punishment . . . mmm
Mmm . . . punishment . . . mmm
Or maybe it is because there are people out there that actually care about the truth.
You know what? I think I respect the die-hard YEC with their stances more than I respect the opinion you expressed here (no personal offense intended). While I think they are horribly wrong to take an old book as literally true, at least they CARE about the truth.
As for more, I think the best way to discover truths about the universe is through science, the only tried and true method we have.
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brennan
Argumentative Brit
Well Evolution made me change the flea spray I use on the cats this week (due to the old one being on the market for 10 years and fleas starting to become resistant to it).
Oh and look up MRSA in UK hospitals. It's an evolved superbug (Myelin Resistant Something or Another) that kills uncomfortably large numbers of people. Being killed by evolution a big enough effect for ya?
BasketCase
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Because they can never back up their argument. When you make a definite claim (i.e. "evolution is definitely false") you must prove it. With actual evidence. That last bit is the bit that's missing.
Addenum: merely showing that the Theory of Evolution has holes or mistakes in it isn't enough. Six thousand and one years ago, the Bible did not exist. Does that mean God didn't exist? Does it mean the Garden of Eden never existed?? Does it mean the Ark was never built? Nope. The Theory of Evolution may still be true even if we humans can't explain it (we simply haven't found the explanation yet). You must provide actual proof that the theory is false.
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