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Why do we have "ph" words?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by general_kill, Jun 1, 2006.

  1. general_kill

    general_kill Chieftain

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    If "ph" is suppose to replace "f", why not just use "f"?

    It's shorter, and it's one less rule to teach in grammer school.
     
  2. The Last Conformist

    The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive

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    Are you asking where it comes from, or why it hasn't been replaced?

    In the former case, it's because the Greek phi originally denoted a sound (an aspirated labial stop, to be exact) sufficiently different from the Latin F that the Romans felt it needed be treated differently when spelling Greek words in Latin letters. Only later did the sound change to an 'f' sound.

    In the later case, because the anglophone world is extremely stubborn and conservative in matters of orthography. In many modern European languages, eg. Spanish and Swedish, 'ph' has been largely or wholly respelt as 'f'.
     
  3. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    Phuket is a wierd word if you do not know how to properly pronounce it. ;)
     
  4. general_kill

    general_kill Chieftain

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    Be funny if it actually were a word :lol:
     
  5. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    You do realise that it is a tourist resort town in Thailand?
    Phuket It was destroyed in the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004.
     
  6. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    because then we couldn't use the word phat
     
  7. Grisu

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    and pronouncing it with an 'f' would somehow fit too :mischief:

    edit: I'm speaking of phuket here, not phat :)
     
  8. classical_hero

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    :lol: That is very good.
     
  9. aaglo

    aaglo Furioso!

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    Phantom/Fantom... one of them is a ghost-like thingy, the other is a cartoon character...

    this is almost the same category as holder/shoulder (o/ou).
     
  10. Rossiya

    Rossiya Fridge Magnet Porn

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    phuket is pronounced pookett right?
     
  11. Donovan Zoi

    Donovan Zoi The Return

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    They were actually going to try and rebuild it, but someone misunderstood the condolences of the mayor when he cried, "Aw, Phuket!"
     
  12. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    The "h" is silent.

    @DZ, good one. :lol:
     
  13. Chukchi Husky

    Chukchi Husky Lone Wolf

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    What's grammar school?
     
  14. Cheezy the Wiz

    Cheezy the Wiz Socialist In A Hurry

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    I think the 'ph' is just left over from the incorporation of Latin/Romance language words into English, thats all. Personally, I prefer Ph over f, as I think it makes the word look 'angry' or something. vulgar, i guess. Ph gives it a touch of class
     
  15. Perfection

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  16. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    Ain't that right Perphection? ;)
     
  17. joycem10

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    Phish?....
     
  18. Souron

    Souron The Dark Lord

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    'Cause Phishing and Fishing are two different words.
     
  19. blackheart

    blackheart unenlightened

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    All the more reason to get read of "ph"
     
  20. Neonanocyborgasm

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    In Classical Greek, the "ph" (Phi) was pronounced exactly like that -- "p" with a breathing sound. The same was true for "th" (theta) and "ch" (chi). The current pronunciation evolved in the Middle Ages.
     

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