Why Should I Vote For Hillary?

[Bootstoots]

Vote for Hillary because the alternative will be an insane and/or evil person. If you vote for a third party, you're voting for the insane/evil person.

 

[Traitorfish]

Because nothing screams "liberalism" like telling people they're either with you or against you.

 

[Berzerker]

Hillary sacrificed thousands of people in a war so she could beat a Republican in a presidential election

how do you vote for that?

 

[Tahuti]

Damn, partisan politics is dumb!

 

[Disgustipated]

Okay this is an off-shoot from the other thread. I'm picking out Hillary because she is by far the most discussed and being anointed for her party's nomination such that even her critics on the left are getting flak from the Clinton machine.

Let's say I'm undecided in the general election because quite frankly I am and have yet to see one candidate that doesn't make me want to stab out my eyes when I imagine them as president):

Can someone explain to me why, if I'm a blank slate, I should vote for Hillary in 2016? I've seriously asked this multiple places and rather than get a serious answer about her accomplishments I basically get a combination of:
A)very empty statements(she was the most "well-traveled Secretary of State ever, which I'll keep in mind if frequent flier miles becomes a big issue instead of what she actually accomplished during those trips)
B)incredulity that I'm even questioning the anointed one ala question Obama in 2008
C)An answer involving Bill which confuses me because Hillary did not change her name to Bill and I didn't ask about Bill

Can I please, finally, get some concrete examples of her accomplishments? What did she accomplish as Senator of New York and Secretary of State? I have literally asked this for years all the way back to 2008 and not gotten a satisfactory answer, just a combination of the above 3.

Thank you.

P.S. please don't make pantsuit jokes or your house will be struck by a drone missile with "hurrr" emblazoned on it

She supported the war in Iraq?

Seriously, Hilary is a done deal. Best just to accept it. The country does better under democratic presidents.
http://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/Presidents_Blinder_Watson_Nov2013.pdf

Personally I prefer democratic presidents and Republican congress. The less the government does, the better. But democrats are important as they don't start wars nearly as often.

 

[Kyriakos]

Femary Clinton.

Welcome to the glorious ranks of countries where the pm/president/autocrat is from one or two dynasties.

 

[BenitoChavez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton

Everything you wanted to know about Hilary. As a side note, I really like Wikipedia for all political issues. As far as I can tell, its as unbiased a source as you can get. Its certainly better than any 24 hr news network or any internet forum.

 

[Kyriakos]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton

Everything you wanted to know about Hilary. As a side note, I really like Wikipedia for all political issues. As far as I can tell, its as unbiased a source as you can get. Its certainly better than any 24 hr news network or any internet forum.

You are kidding, right?

?

Cause that article has only 1 paragraph on the Benghazi hearing... That is also how much it has on her actions after she left office, wich have their own header, unlike the Libya affair... I mean, ok, maybe wiki should be a bit more subtle :/

 

[BenitoChavez]

You are kidding, right?

?

Cause that article has only 1 paragraph on the Benghazi hearing... That is also how much it has on her actions after she left office, wich have their own header, unlike the Libya affair... I mean, ok, maybe wiki should be a bit more subtle :/

Sigh.....

This is why I abhor political debates. It usually boils down to someone being opposed to something so they point out some inane detail and spin it into a negative while ignoring the rest of the issue.

 

[Disgustipated]

Benghazi wasn't that big a deal, unless you were related to one of the 4 who died.

It does show she's kind of incompetent, but all government workers are incompetent, so that's not really news. If government workers and politicians knew what in the hell they were doing, they would have real jobs. Instead they steal money from us people who do know how to actually work a real job.

 

[Traitorfish]

Femary Clinton.

Welcome to the glorious ranks of countries where the pm/president/autocrat is from one or two dynasties.

The name "Roosevelt" doesn't ring a bell, I take it?

It does show she's kind of incompetent, but all government workers are incompetent, so that's not really news. If government workers and politicians knew what in the hell they were doing, they would have real jobs. Instead they steal money from us people who do know how to actually work a real job.

What is it you do again?

 

[Borachio]

The US has less chance of voting in a female President than it has of voting in a black one.

Or, well, maybe vice versa.

(Obama's not really black, is he? Though he is the blackest President the US has had so far, I'll grant you.)

 

[Cutlass]

Hillary could win. And probably would win. The single most important factor in the election is not electing a Republican.

 

[Arachnofiend]

The name "Roosevelt" doesn't ring a bell, I take it?

The Roosevelts were awesome though. They were also on different spots on the political spectrum (both left leaning in American terms but obviously FDR waaaay further than Teddy), had different goals and were able to accomplish different things that were generally pretty cool.

...Speaking of which, Obama could probably learn something about getting around uncooperative branches of the government from FDR.

also you could have said bush, which would have been more terrifying a comparison

 

[Hygro]

Bush was implied by Kyr

 

[Rashiminos]

It's kind of hard to see into the fog of 2016 from now, and I doubt the Republicans can really get behind a true dark horse candidate while still being afflicted with Tea Party Mouth*, so how will Hillary be impeded by her own party?

Spoiler :

Imagine a Bostonian accent, if you can...

 

[Antilogic]

The Roosevelts were awesome though. They were also on different spots on the political spectrum (both left leaning in American terms but obviously FDR waaaay further than Teddy), had different goals and were able to accomplish different things that were generally pretty cool.

...Speaking of which, Obama could probably learn something about getting around uncooperative branches of the government from FDR.

Wha...? Teddy Roosevelt's 1912 platform was pretty far left.

also you could have said bush, which would have been more terrifying a comparison

Bush was implied by Kyr

There were also the Adams and Harrisons if you really want to reach back, and plenty more if you go below the presidential level (Rockefellers, Tafts, Kennedys, Stevensons to name a few).

 

[Dachs]

How many other candidates have their own planet? Or such a significant gravitational pull? The choice is clear.

chris christie has a pretty substantial gravitational pull from what i understand

 

[Gucumatz]

Fat jokes really? When we have so many Sopranos jokes we could use instead?

 

[Light Cleric]

The Roosevelts were awesome though. They were also on different spots on the political spectrum (both left leaning in American terms but obviously FDR waaaay further than Teddy), had different goals and were able to accomplish different things that were generally pretty cool.

...Speaking of which, Obama could probably learn something about getting around uncooperative branches of the government from FDR.

also you could have said bush, which would have been more terrifying a comparison

Obama already learned plenty about getting around Congrss from Bush, I'm not sure what FDR could teach him other than trying to pack the courts and creating internment camps(it's weird how people always gloss over that part of FDR).