Why so much variability among dogs but not cats?

They provide "toys" and you can see these big f'ing cats playing with a ball...and they look just like your housecat knocking around a pingpong ball. Bat it back and forth between their paws, it 'gets away' and they tear after it repeatedly batting it along; every cat owner knows the imagery. Except the 'toys' they give these cats are old bowling balls.
Conversely, you can get occasional glimpses of the terrifying killing machine that we call 'domesticated' cats. I once happened to be looking directly at a small bird that landed on a lawn, about a yard/meter from a line of bushes. I swear there was a "snikt" sound like in a Wolverine comic and the bird vanished in a little puff of feathers.
 
Haven't humans been on purpose breeding all sorts of different types of dogs, and not at all doing that with cats? By that I mean that breeders have been breeding for certain characteristic in dogs for quite a while now. As a result we have dogs with giant noses, dogs with tiny legs, dogs with giant asses, and so on. A lot of that was done on purpose, right? As a result we have all sorts of weird looking dogs. The same thing has been done with cats, but to a much smaller degree.
 
Please don't ask me for a source (because I'm lazy and don't care enough about the topic) but I read an article that explained that dogs have a certain DNA replication quirk that makes them both highly variable and easily manipulable.

From what I remember, their genes were more likely to make multiple redundant copies of themselves within the genome. Even though it was the same gene, differing numbers of it would cause different traits to be expressed. The bull terrier was pointed out as a good example of this as a gene dealing with skull growth was duplicated generation over generation causing their distinct curved noses.

I was curious and checked it, and you're right on the first part, and you got one thing wrong for the last part, else it would also be right (not the gene was duplicated, but parts of the gene within, elongating it basically).
So, you would e.g. in a very simple model assume that one trait is regulated by one gene.
e.g. with blood group, you have gene version #1, you have blood group A, you have gene version #2, you have blood group B or version #3, then you have blood group H/0/whatever-it-is-called (quick check on wiki tells me that this IS the case).
In humans this is for most traits NOT the case. If you wanted to manipulate human height or eye colour, you'd need to manipulate dozens of genes.
Not for dogs. Dogs have a very simple genomic structure, and many traits are controlled by simple mutations on single genes, or by lengths of these different genes. To manipulate the height of a dog, you'd need to manipulate a single gene.
Therefore, it is easy to breed them. If you have 2 small dogs, you'll only get small pups from them, because the trait is on a single gene, and both of them have that single gene. In humans, 2 small humans might have a small kid, but the trait is controlled by X different genes, which interferre with Y other genes, and the combo in the kid also could lead to higher growth (because we just have no idea how this works, because it's too complicated).

In the paper they also found what Narz says: Dogs might have the highest variability in the different traits for terrestrial animals (and obviously they found that dogs are highly inbred).

Source, https://www.genome.gov/27540744/201...ts-attributed-to-simple-genetic-architecture/ , the source scientific paper is at the bottom (interesting and good, from what I quickly saw).
The case of the bulldog skull gene is a separate paper, see http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1002849 .
EDIT: MIght need to point out that I'm a biologist ^^.
 
Haven't humans been on purpose breeding all sorts of different types of dogs, and not at all doing that with cats? By that I mean that breeders have been breeding for certain characteristic in dogs for quite a while now. As a result we have dogs with giant noses, dogs with tiny legs, dogs with giant asses, and so on. A lot of that was done on purpose, right? As a result we have all sorts of weird looking dogs. The same thing has been done with cats, but to a much smaller degree.
You want to talk about weird-looking cats? Try Grumpy Cat, and hairless cats. There's a scam that's been going on where people take ordinary kittens, shave off all their hair, and then sell them on Kijiji as exotic hairless cats. They insist on conducting the transaction in places like parking lots, in dim light, so they can grab the money and run before the duped customer realizes the kitten they just paid hundreds of dollars for is just an ordinary DSH kitten (domestic short-hair). It becomes immediately apparent once the hair starts growing back in a couple of days, or if there are suspicious cuts and bruises on the cat's skin. These kittens are often traumatized by the experience. Kudos to the people who decide to keep the kitten anyway, instead of dumping it at the nearest shelter because it's "just ordinary."

I hate dogs and cats

the kind of pets you hold in cages I feel are kinda boring and kinda unethically held
Most people don't keep dogs and cats in cages.

Maybe you would do best with a pet rock. As I mentioned, they cost nothing to feed and there are no messes to clean up. Mine are painted to look like dogs, cats, and ladybugs, but you might be more amenable to an ordinary, unpainted rock. That way, you could just throw it away when you got bored with it (as some people do when they get bored with real dogs and cats).
 
Maybe you would do best with a pet rock. As I mentioned, they cost nothing to feed and there are no messes to clean up. Mine are painted to look like dogs, cats, and ladybugs, but you might be more amenable to an ordinary, unpainted rock. That way, you could just throw it away when you got bored with it (as some people do when they get bored with real dogs and cats).
that's not throwing it away its setting it free, returning it to the wild.....
 
Would you really like a giant cat as a pet? Knowing how cats behave.


There are a number of breeds of big cats where there are now more in captivity than in the wild. So a lot of fools think they'd make great pets.
 
Maybe you would do best with a pet rock. As I mentioned, they cost nothing to feed and there are no messes to clean up. Mine are painted to look like dogs, cats, and ladybugs, but you might be more amenable to an ordinary, unpainted rock. That way, you could just throw it away when you got bored with it (as some people do when they get bored with real dogs and cats).

They're easy to train too. They can roll over, sit, play dead, and stay. :)
 
There's this feline compound not far from where I live. They provide a breeding environment for zoos...like when you don't want your tigers to get inbred but you don't want to trade with some other zoo to bring in new blood to your limited facilities you send one of yours and they send one of theirs off to this place for a little honeymoon action...anyway.

They provide "toys" and you can see these big f'ing cats playing with a ball...and they look just like your housecat knocking around a pingpong ball. Bat it back and forth between their paws, it 'gets away' and they tear after it repeatedly batting it along; every cat owner knows the imagery. Except the 'toys' they give these cats are old bowling balls.

A bowling ball would feel pretty light if we were 5x stronger across the board...aren't these cats stronger by more than that?
 
Cats are much more awesome than dogs too. It's hard to improve upon cats.
There's probably a genuine truth to that. Until they became pets, which was quite recent in the grand scheme of things, cats were mousers, and nature had almost perfected them in that role. We expected dogs, in contrast, to perform a wide range of quite specific jobs, even within the dog's natural domains of "hunting" and "yelling at stuff", so we had to go tinkering with them to get the results we wanted.
 
I don't know if this would be helpful or not, it's about the domestication of silver foxes. One thing that might be of interest is that the domesticated foxes behave like dogs and started to show physical traits found in dogs such as a curled up tail.

http://www.wildlifeonline.me.uk/red_fox.html#domestication
 
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