It's also in a way, to be fair, just an unfortunate coincidence, like I was trying to ask before, but MobBoss ignored or missed it. But after all, when "that one guy who is rude" is also a right-wing conservative, it's obvious MobBoss isn't going to start hating right-wing conservatives, and so just happens to single out the atheist part.
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Will their ever be a publicly atheist American President?
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It's also in a way, to be fair, just an unfortunate coincidence, like I was trying to ask before, but MobBoss ignored or missed it. But after all, when "that one guy who is rude" is also a right-wing conservative, it's obvious MobBoss isn't going to start hating right-wing conservatives, and so just happens to single out the atheist part.
Berzerker
Deity
How did the people you have voted for convince you of that?
But he would have voted for George Bush?
MobBoss
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I will simply remind you what Jesus also said about the law of Moses. You may want to look it up.
No, I think people who think that are idiots.
Actually, there have been many politicians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_American_politicians
Well, Timothy McVeigh, the guy that did the Oklahoma City bombing was supposedly agnostic and was quoted as saying 'science was his religion'.
Fair enough.
And to be clear here...I dont hate atheists. I am sure I could have a beer and a nice talk with anyone, including atheists (however, religious topics should probably be a nono). Not voting for them doesnt mean I hate them....it just means I dont think they would have similar viewpoints on many issues in which my faith matters.
Of course you can now legally have a beer with one of us because most nonbelievers were likely against the religious nutcases making a Constitutional issue out of beer.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
It wasn't the atheists pushing prohibition.Errrr. Huh?
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Uhh, wut? Now were changing topics now?!
It was a bunch of nutty women who had drunk husbands that pushed for prohibition!
TEH TOOK OUR BEERZ!!!!
It was a bunch of nutty women who had drunk husbands that pushed for prohibition!
TEH TOOK OUR BEERZ!!!!
You drunk Christians should have stood up to your wimminfolk.Uhh, wut? Now were changing topics now?!
It was a bunch of nutty women who had drunk husbands that pushed for prohibition!
TEH TOOK OUR BEERZ!!!!
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Not if they stand on the soap box and scream "NO SEX FOR YOU! COME BACK, ONE YEAR!"
Ok, thread needs to get back on track
Didn't they have sticks no bigger than their thumbs to enforce some of that old time gracious submission?
mangxema
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They also promote underage drinking, though, so it's kind of a wash.
(Hyperbole recognized.)
useless
Social Justice Rogue
How can you generalise so broadly about such a diverse group?
Another example of racism towards Athiests.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Note that the bible expressly condemns (either partner) using sex as a tool like that. It states that the only valid reason to withhold sex from one's spouse is as part of prayer and fasting, and even then only when both parties had previously agreed to and set a date to end the sex fast and recommence sexual relations again afterwords. (That doesn't mean the man has the right to rape a resistant wife though. If the man is in the right it is unlikely for the wife to be resistant anyway. Husbands should continue to woo their wives after marriage and have plenty of foreplay. Song of Solomon seems to show Cunnilingus in a positive light.)
I don't think there is any biblical justification at all for beating or even threatening to beat one's wife either. Christians are even banned from using such intimidation of their slaves (and of course they are to free any Christian slaves), and they are to treat wives at least as well as they treat their own flesh. That doesn't mean that spanking shouldn't play a role in early childhood discipline though.
I believe the rule of thumb for sticks used to beat wives was in the Common Law, but it ha no basis in biblical law.
Since a country can only have one majority, aren't they also the most oppressed majority?
Eh? You can simultaneously have a majority of the population being say, Christian, and a majority of the population being heterosexual, a majority being white, ...
He said that the whole of the law is to love God and to follow the Golden Rule.
How about YOU look it up?
It's actually pretty good advice.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
He said more than that about it EL_Mac.
Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
He then goes on in the same chapter to talk about the some of the 10 commandments - murder, adultery, etc.
And since I have seen you take the bible out of context tremendously before, no need to even go in that direction. Feel free to keep your biblical 'advice' to yourself where I am concerned, since your views of it are so warped in comparison to what I see taught in churches all over. In other words, Jesus said to beware of false teachers of the word....and I happen to think thats pretty good advice.
"19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
That looks pretty damning of constantly justifying the breaking of the Golden Rule. It's also pretty damning of misrepresenting the Golden Rule, too.
And you've called me an agent of Satan & the False Prophet for years. Basically the worst thing your worldview can envision. It's hilarious, frankly. This, despite the fact that I'm not the one with a string of false predictions & a claim of being a prophet!
So, seriously, the whole of the Law is the Golden Rule & to love God. The rest is just commentary. It was three years ago I explained to you what the Golden Rule was. It's pretty good advice. It's logically sound, sustainable, and Christian.
That looks pretty damning of constantly justifying the breaking of the Golden Rule. It's also pretty damning of misrepresenting the Golden Rule, too.
And you've called me an agent of Satan & the False Prophet for years. Basically the worst thing your worldview can envision. It's hilarious, frankly. This, despite the fact that I'm not the one with a string of false predictions & a claim of being a prophet!
So, seriously, the whole of the Law is the Golden Rule & to love God. The rest is just commentary. It was three years ago I explained to you what the Golden Rule was. It's pretty good advice. It's logically sound, sustainable, and Christian.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I have never called you either of those to my recollection. I have mentioned how far outside of context you take scripture, and I have backed that up in our arguements before.
EDIT: Just as an aside, while I dont remember ever seriously calling you those names, if I have or if you have gotten the impression I did, I apologize for it. I have very, very, much tried to not call or label anyone names around here, even in heated discussions. I do still think your own personal interpretations of biblical scripture way off base, but that doesnt make you 'an agent of Satan' it just makes you wrong in my opinion.
But I have never resorted to name calling that I know.
I have also said I would pray for you and I have. I just think its sad that you have to be so bitter about the word to the extent you have to misrepresent it.
It's hilarious, frankly. This, despite the fact that I'm not the one with a string of false predictions & a claim of being a prophet!
String of false predictions? Rofl, wow, a guy makes a wrong call on an election and all of a sudden, whammo! Its a string.
I have been right on a few as well there though EL_Mac. Glad to see you recognize it.
Do you follow it? Do you love God?
First of all you have never had to explain anything in regards to the bible to me. So get over it. But, I agree it is great advice from Jesus. But its not all there is to it either. And like I said, I have seen you twist scripture to the point of absurdity before, so I really have no desire to debate this further with you.
The idea of not voting for someone because they are atheist is pretty stupid. I can understand not voting for someone because their religious policies do not appeal to you, but their personal views on religion should be very much besides the point.
eg. Britain has had a couple of atheist PMs, yet is still a Christian nation.
eg. Britain has had a couple of atheist PMs, yet is still a Christian nation.
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