Windows 8

I will keep using Windows 7 as long as I can. I will likely be one of the last hold outs like the current XP hold outs today unless Microsoft brings back the start menu, gets rid of the Metro UI or at least down plays it as a secondary interface and brings the main focus back the desktop on PCs like it should be. If they don't do this I will have to look to any alternatives out there.

Sure, but you should admit that this is because of irrational hatred and not for any real reason regarding OS functionality.
 
Encourage developers to use latest and greatest features unavailable on older versions, and many of those who'd pay for an upgrade in the first place (rather than using whatever came with their machine) will want to buy it. Even if they don't like the new version very much conceptually.

You could go one step further and actively degrade the user experience of those running older but still officially supported versions.
I'm not aware of MS engaging in this kind of pettiness though, and it wouldn't make sense to me either. They are just as happy to license you an older version... or happier, as you may come back for an upgrade sooner.
XP was a reasonable choice for many for a while, but it's getting quite long in the tooth...
 
Encourage developers to use latest and greatest features unavailable on older versions, and many of those who'd pay for an upgrade in the first place (rather than using whatever came with their machine) will want to buy it. Even if they don't like the new version very much conceptually.

You could go one step further and actively degrade the user experience of those running older but still officially supported versions.
I'm not aware of MS engaging in this kind of pettiness though, and it wouldn't make sense to me either. They are just as happy to license you an older version... or happier, as you may come back for an upgrade sooner.
XP was a reasonable choice for many for a while, but it's getting quite long in the tooth...

The whole reason for this new Windows 8 interface is to boost their app store sales. But adoption rates are dismal and are slower than vista adoption rates.
 
The whole reason for this new Windows 8 interface is to boost their app store sales.

That clearly isn't the case, if they just wanted to boost app store sales they would have done like Mac OS - keep the traditional desktop, introduce an app store for the traditional desktop, and don't allow users to install desktop apps from outside of the app store by default.
 
That clearly isn't the case, if they just wanted to boost app store sales they would have done like Mac OS - keep the traditional desktop, introduce an app store for the traditional desktop, and don't allow users to install desktop apps from outside of the app store by default.
Might as well change the thread title to "Windows 8 RT," since that is what everyone seems to be criticizing.
 
Might as well change the thread title to "Windows 8 RT," since that is what everyone seems to be criticizing.

I've got an MS Surface, and it's for me, it's the best tablet available, but I think Windows RT (no 8 in the name) is a bit of a misguided effort.

Intel has pretty much equaled or bested ARM for processors at the tablet form factor (which I suspect MS wasn't expecting to happen so quickly when they started development of Windows RT), so if you're manufacturing a Windows tablet now, there's really no reason to use an ARM chip rather than an Intel chip. (Other than maybe price, but there hasn't been much real-world evidence to support ARM Windows tablet being cheaper than Intel Windows tablets.)
 
I don't get the big fuss over Windows 8. Other then the initial start screen, it's pretty much the same experience as 7.
 
I don't get the big fuss over Windows 8. Other then the initial start screen, it's pretty much the same experience as 7.

That's just the point. People hate the initial start screen. They shouldn't have changed it. Desktops and notebooks are not moving to touch.
 
I don't get the big fuss over Windows 8. Other then the initial start screen, it's pretty much the same experience as 7.

Primarily:

1) People don't like change.

2) People were using Windows Vista/7 wrong (clicking on start menu items instead of typing) and are upset that their sub-optimal user experience has been further degraded.
 
Primarily:


2) People were using Windows Vista/7 wrong (clicking on start menu items instead of typing) and are upset that their sub-optimal user experience has been further degraded.

This is just plain stupid. Double clicking a start icon or bring up the start menu is just as fast or faster and bringing up search and searching for a program name and it doesn't make you remember your program name. Sub-optimal. Yeah, whatever.
 
This is just plain stupid. Double clicking a start icon or bring up the start menu is just as fast or faster and bringing up search and searching for a program name and it doesn't make you remember your program name. Sub-optimal. Yeah, whatever.

No, I can type faster than any human being can move the mouse and click.

And if you can't remember the program name, and have more things than fit on the start screen, it's going to take you like a minute to read through all your start menu programs anyway.

And really, I'm not convinced that your "person who doesn't know the names of programs they use" actually exists in any significant number.
 
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