Windows 8

[Terxpahseyton]

Win8 is also only for the PC.

Okay I am confused. Isn't one of the main points of 8 to be for PC and tablets at the same time?

Google is a big company now.

But Goggle is not evil
They told me (and everyone else)

 

[Zelig]

Okay I am confused. Isn't one of the main points of 8 to be for PC and tablets at the same time?

1) Tablets are a type of PC.
2) Windows RT is not Windows 8.

 

[Antilogic]

Just got my new machine with Windows 8, and it is confusing as hell. I've finally gotten to the desktop and I never want to see those random-colored blocks again.

 

[Iranon]

I read that as "random blocks" at first. Now I'll be sad every time I see the start screen and can't play Tetris with it.

Incidentally, that'd be a more natural way to reorganise it than the one MS implemented

 

[Antilogic]

It's definitely smoother than prior versions of Windows (I'm jumping to it from Vista and XP), and it's not giving me conflicts with some of the AGEOD games like Vista did. So I'm happy there. Once I finish taking the time to customize it, and maybe figure out how to have it default to the desktop on boot and not WTH-blox-evary-wherz mode, I'll be happy.

 

[innonimatu]

Okay I am confused. Isn't one of the main points of 8 to be for PC and tablets at the same time?They told me (and everyone else)

Yes, but at the last moment they stated having doubts about that strategy and fiddled with the official naming., so as not to taint the "windows 8" brand too much with the failure of the ARM version.

 

[Zelig]

It wasn't at all a last moment thing, Windows RT had a separate name for ages.

That's not to say that MS is doing a good job at naming/branding, they're kind of shockingly awful at it. (Windows Phone 7 Series Phone?)

 

[Archbob]

Metro totally blows on non-tablet things like laptops and desktops.

 

[Zelig]

Good thing you don't have to use Metro.

 

[Archbob]

Good thing you don't have to use Metro.

I don't even know why it defaults to metro for desktop users. Metro simply sucks for desktop, it should not be the default option. This is just going to be MS's failed attempt at trying to make people buy stuff from their APP store.

They might have sold 40 million units since launch but the OS's actual usage market share is like 1/4 of what Win 7's was at this point after launch. There are a significant amount of people that are not using Win8 that bought it. Win might do well on tablet but its going to totally flop on desktop unless they switch the default to not be Metro. They really need to make the desktop default actually be a desktop OS. Trying to merge mobile and desktop is a stupid move.

Most users aren't power users, since Metro is the default, they're just going to try it and conclude it sucks.

I have to switch back to legacy mode in my browser just to get flash to work.

 

[Zelig]

Metro isn't the default.

You can use Win8 exactly the same way as Win7.

 

[Antilogic]

Whenever my new Windows 8 laptop boots up, it defaults to a screen with a bunch of random-colored blocks. I have to hunt down and find my desktop block to get to it. If there's a way to make that desktop come up by default, please tell me.

 

[Archbob]

Metro isn't the default.

You can use Win8 exactly the same way as Win7.

No, the new interface is the default on desktop, and it blows. Look at Antilogic.

When you start Win8, it boots into the metro(touchscreen interface). That crap needs to be gone.
When I first startup Win8, it should work like an upgraded version of Win 7, not something with crappy jumbled blocks where you have to click on a block to get the desktop interace back.

 

[Zelig]

As I've explained in one of these threads a few days ago, the start screen doesn't behave like metro in any meaningful way, it works just like a big start menu.

You can use the task scheduler to set a task to show the desktop on login.

You can set the desktop as the first tile, then hitting enter will bring you to the desktop.

You shouldn't need to turn your laptop off very often anyway, sleep mode works very well with modern hardware and software.

No, the new interface is the default on desktop, and it blows. Look at Antilogic.

When you start Win8, it boots into the metro(touchscreen interface). That crap needs to be gone.
When I first startup Win8, it should work like an upgraded version of Win 7, not something with crappy jumbled blocks where you have to click on a block to get the desktop interace back.

Start screen isn't a Metro app, it works the same as the start menu.

 

[Archbob]

This whole "tile" thing completely just needs to be gone on the desktop. Desktop view should be the default. You shouldn't need an "app" or "tile" to start desktop or do anything in the task scheduler(most people don't know how to do that), they're just going to look at it and conclude it sucks.

MS is trying to force this new interface on us, and the reaction has be extremely negative from the desktop user crowd.

XP, Vista, Win 7, didn't really change interfaces. 99% of windows users don't want an interface change because the interface has been pretty consistent since Win 95. The reason I don't use Mac and Linux is because I hate their interfaces. They suck. the start button + icons on desktop is easily the most intuitive interface.

 

[Zelig]

The start screen works exactly the same as the start menu, what on earth can you do with the start menu that you can't do with the start screen?

 

[Archbob]

Its a lot more cluttered and things are harder to find. I have about 30 icons or more in Win 7 on my desktop to start in ABC order. I don't want 30-40 colored blocks. And I prefer a start button that lists all my programs. The blocks are huge and as I said, flashplayer doesn't work unless I switch to desktop mode. I do not want to scroll over just to get to that colored block I'm looking for.

The entire point of this interface is to get people more into the APP store and depend more than ever on buying their apps. Thats fine for mobile users, desktop users don't want any of that crap. Feedback has been negative about the new interface and adoption is several times slower than it was for 7 even though they had a lot of sales.

The new UI is totally built for mobile, its very poorly suited for anything else.

 

[Zelig]

Type a program name to launch.

The start menu is terrible at organizing stuff, there's no conceivable way the start screen is any worse.

There's no "switching" to desktop mode - I do everything on the desktop, the start screen is just a launcher where you type program names, exactly the same as the start menu - if you're an actual power user, you'll have multiple monitors, and you can see that the start screen only opens on a single monitor, just like the start menu.

There is nothing Windows 7 does better than Windows 8.

 

[Archbob]

Having to type program name is ********, most people don't remember what their program names are called. I'd much rather hit the start button and have everything listed. The icons in windows 7 are a whole lot better than the blocks on Windows 8 as well. I hardly ever typed in a program name in either XP or 7, I don't think your getting this point. Hardly anyone I know actually does this, even most of the programmers usually use the start menu or double click on a icon.


Very few people actually use run and type in a program name. So, no, its not just like Windows 7. It sucks.
Your thinking of yourself, 99% of people aren't power users and most people don't have multiple screen on a laptop/desktop. People want a simple thing that works, no extra clicks to launch desktop view, no remembering program names, etc. Windows 8 does not deliver that.


MS is not making for power users or geeky people, they are making it for the general audience. It sucks for that purpose.

 

[Mise]

all i'm hearing is raaaaaaah change!!!!!!

I don't really care about people who don't even know the name of the program they want to open.