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World Wonder Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by HoorayForSiam, May 16, 2018.

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  1. Lily_Lancer

    Lily_Lancer Deity

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    Alhambra - 16
    Apadana - 10
    Big Ben - 27
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23=22+1 I'll keep upvoting this until Great Zimbabwe being eliminated.
    Forbidden City - 32
    Great Zimbabwe – 16
    Hagia Sophia - 12
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 17
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 19
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 18=21-3 This one never pays back for itself
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
     
  2. Zyxpsilon

    Zyxpsilon Running Spider

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    @Lily_Lancer .. You've just forgot Venetian Arsenal - 9
    ;)
     
  3. Zyxpsilon

    Zyxpsilon Running Spider

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    Alhambra - 16
    Apadana - 7 (10-3) Trouble with this one is not really what it gives.. more about that each of those six (or less on whichever coastal configuration(s), btw) surrounding Capital tiles are far more precious than 2 Envoys/Per Wonders (built afterwards) & 2 GreatWorks-Slots under most gameplay conditions. The advantages offered are VERY specific to City-States Patronage/Gambling.
    Big Ben - 27
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 32
    Great Zimbabwe - 16
    Hagia Sophia - 12
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 17
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 19
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 19 (18+1) Honestly, i'll keep defending this major Capital-Booster as i still can prepare any swift Science-Victory (and outpour emergency Units at will!) just through that +20% Production edge & compounded Mines output. It's not how many but when its effect goes live -- precisely. Like -- simply accelerating Big-Ben.. soon after.
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 9
     
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  4. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

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    Moderator Action: Reminder that you should not be posting in an elimination game thread unless you are voting or correcting a vote total. Three non-conforming posts deleted.
     
  5. Timothy001

    Timothy001 Prince

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    Alhambra - 16
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 27
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 32
    Great Zimbabwe - 16
    Hagia Sophia - 12
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 17
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 19
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16 (19-3) I just don't think its as good as it looks
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 10 (9+1) Easy build restrictions, usually avoided by CPU. Double navy
     
  6. Maquis

    Maquis King

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    Alhambra - 16
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 27 + 1 = 28 (Doubling the treasury is powerful no matter what victory type you are going for)
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 32
    Great Zimbabwe - 16
    Hagia Sophia - 12 - 3 = 9 (+1 spread just seems too weak, even for religious victory)
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 17
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 19
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 10
     
  7. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Alhambra - 16
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 32
    Great Zimbabwe - 17 (16 + 1) With the right location and enough trade routes, this can yield over 100 gold per turn.
    Hagia Sophia - 9
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 17
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 16 (19 - 3) This wonder has a lot of potential power, but that power is difficult to fully utilize. It's not common for the same civ to be earning both lots of great admirals and lots of great engineers, and since you don't know at the time of construction which great people you'll be getting, it's hard to plan a strategy around them.
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 10
     
  8. Rosty K

    Rosty K King

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    Alhambra - 13 (16 - 3) - As I said before, I'll better have a mine instead of this.
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 32
    Great Zimbabwe - 17
    Hagia Sophia - 9
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 17
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17 (16 + 1) - No harder to utilize its potential than for Great Zimbabwe.
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18 (Also a good place for a mine, but there are more diplomatic cards I want to keep in all the time than military)
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 10
     
  9. Boyan_Sun

    Boyan_Sun Warlord

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    Alhambra - 13
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 32
    Great Zimbabwe - 14 (17-3) It was very powerful in Vanilla, but in R&F, CH was greatly nerfed, then most bonus resources will be harvested due to Magnus, even gold is not bottleneck now, all made it no longer of high value
    Hagia Sophia - 9
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18 (17+1) Easy to build using galley overflow, and effect is really explosive when condition met (and it has bug with military or industrial CS, that +15% will calculate twice, which make it more powerful)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 10
     
  10. Siddorm

    Siddorm Chieftain

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    Alhambra - 13
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33 (32+1) Because of extra wildcard slot.
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 6 (9-3) Faith bonuses are weak in general. Seems true of this too.
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 10
     
  11. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Alhambra - 13-3=10 - The only bonus that stands out is the military policy card, and I find the military policy card to be the least useful.
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 24
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 6+1=7 - I always try to get this. Religion is a good source of golden age points, and this is also useful for RV. It saves faith.
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 10
     
  12. Xandinho

    Xandinho Deity

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 25 (24+1) Good wonder for players who want to establish many colonies on other continents. Ideal for Spain or England.
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 33
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 7 (10-3) It's time for this to fall. Double navy is good, but not great, since having navy in civ6 is not so important. AI doesn't to build many ships.
     
  13. Ondolindë

    Ondolindë Emperor

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 25
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 34 (33+1) an extra charge for builders is awesome
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 4 (7-3) Agree, a navy is not essential since having one in civ6 is not so important.
     
  14. liv

    liv Emperor

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 25
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 35 (34+1) an extra charge for builders is awesome +1
    Ruhr Valley - 16
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 1 (4-3) By the time this wonder is available I have built my navy
     
  15. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 7
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 25
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 35
    Ruhr Valley - 16 + 1 = 17 Even with governors, this is still a strong wonder
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
    Venetian Arsenal - 1 - 3 = ELIMINATED AI can't use this wonder to its full advantage
     
  16. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 4= 7 - 3. Not worth the hammers
    Big Ben - 28
    Casa de Contratación - 25
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 35
    Ruhr Valley - 18 = 17 + 1. Top 5 wonder imo
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 18
     
  17. Hammurabbit

    Hammurabbit Warlord

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 4
    Big Ben - 29 = 28 +1 - Not only do you get an economic slot (the most useful if you disregard wild card) but you double your money. Plan your economy a little before you build BB and you wont have to worry about gold for a few hundred years.
    Casa de Contratación - 25
    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 35
    Ruhr Valley - 18
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 15 = 18-3 - It's of course a good wonder, and not too expensive to build. BUT if you didn't have a reason to build a big army you dont gain a lot. Also, some promotions are of less importance, so the effects might be difficult to reap immediately. And an alternative could be to use the hammers to squeeze out a few more troops to have a larger army. Anyway, not Top-5 wonder material.
     
  18. Jarms48

    Jarms48 Prince

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 4
    Big Ben - 30 (29 + 1) Parroting this one, a great wonder. I typically even run my cities focus on projects to get a bit more gold when I start building it.

    Colosseum – 28
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 35
    Ruhr Valley - 18
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 12 (15 - 3) Getting and saving the promotion for a healing can mean a lot of wasted XP. Also greatly depends on how many units you have, a larger army will of course benefit more.
     
  19. Trav'ling Canuck

    Trav'ling Canuck Deity

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    Alhambra - 10
    Apadana - 1 (4 - 3) You're in the wrong tier, Apadana. The requirement to build you on precious land adjacent to my capital should have eliminated you long ago, as that tile almost certainly carries a high opportunity cost.
    Big Ben - 30
    Colosseum – 29 (28 + 1) Still the most universally beneficial Wonder. The Amenity bonus alone is worth a fortune in luxuries you can trade away over the remainder of the game.
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 17
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 35
    Ruhr Valley - 18
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 12
     
  20. Rosty K

    Rosty K King

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    Alhambra - 7 (10 - 3). I still prefer my mine :D
    Apadana - 1
    Big Ben - 30
    Colosseum – 29
    Cristo Redentor - 22
    Eiffel Tower - 23
    Forbidden City - 33
    Great Zimbabwe - 14
    Hagia Sophia - 7
    Kilwa Kisiwani - 18
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 18 (17 + 1) - This is below Kilwa and especially Potala? You must be kidding me!
    Oracle - 25
    Oxford University - 23
    Potala Palace - 18
    Pyramids - 35
    Ruhr Valley - 18
    St. Basils Cathedral - 22
    Temple of Artemis - 24
    Terracotta Army - 12
     
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