World Wonder Elimination Thread

[Macedong]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20
Big Ben - 24
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 8
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Hanging Gardens - 5
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 14
Kilwa Kisiwani - 22
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 25
Mont St. Michel - 6
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 15 (14+1): love already stated
St. Basil’s Cathedral – 22
Temple of Artemis - 26
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19 (22-3): hate already stated

 

[WillowBrook]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20
Big Ben - 25 (24+1) extra policy slot and double treasury? Yes, please.
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 8
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Hanging Gardens - 2 (5-3) Nice to capture, but not worth the early production to build.
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 14
Kilwa Kisiwani - 22
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 25
Mont St. Michel - 6
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 15
Temple of Artemis - 26
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

 

[kingofsealand]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 8
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Hanging Gardens - 2
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 14 - 3 = 11: this wonders bonuses might be alright if you're trying to do early conquest with faith bought units. I just never find myself needing what it offers bad enough to justify its cost.
Kilwa Kisiwani - 22
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 25
Mont St. Michel - 6 + 1 = 7: even if you aren't the Khmer if you have reliquaries, this is powerful. Build st. Basils and fill it up, you'll be swimming in religious tourism which offsets it's negative modifiers. Sometimes unnecessary if Kandy is around but useful nonetheless
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 15
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 26
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

Readding st. Basils which disappeared in last post.

 

[BenitoChavez]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 8
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Hanging Gardens - 2
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 22
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 25
Mont St. Michel - 4 = 7 - 3. Relics never seem worth it to me. You have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get them (build HS, build temples, buy apostle, RNG the martyr promotion, sacrifice apostle). This makes it slightly easier, but is it really worth the production and faith to go through all of that? I think not
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16 = 15 + 1. This is a top 5 wonder to me so it's surprising to see this so low. This wonder is so versatile. For Science victories it has lost some value due to Renya, but you still need to build the spaceship parts so it is still really really good. For Culture this allows you to build more wonders in your city, or just work on a ton of cultural projects. For Domination you can pump out units like there is no tomorrow. For religion...well it kinda meh for religion. But hey, 3/4 victory conditions ain't bad.
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 26
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

 

[Rosty K]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 8
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Hanging Gardens - -1 (2-3) ELIMINATED. This wonder is no more. There's no problem with growth normally, so I'd prefer a wonder that slows it at times.
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 22
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26 (25 + 1) How can Temple of Artemis be above this? Free admiral, extra engineer charges (you will build a few IZ anyway, will you?)... A must have in most circumstances.
Mont St. Michel - 4
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 26
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

 

[eleven11]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5 (8-3) - I think Great Musicians are almost pointless. Wait... no, they are very pointless. Significant GM points come late and require huge investment in Wonders like this to get the points rolling. Not to mention this wonder takes a ton of hammers.
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23 (22+1) - I like currying CS favor so this fits my play-style greatly.
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Mont St. Michel - 4
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 26
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Mont St. Michel - 4
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 14 - 3 = 11 (It's good when you manage to find a city with forest and plenty of desert hills, but that rarely happens. Even then it only boosts a single city so not that big of a deal.)
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 26 + 1 = 27 (Somewhat terrain dependent but can give you a really nice boost early and the extra amenities are always welcome. I'm able to build it more often than not)
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

 

[Kimiimaro]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 20+1=21 - As someone who likes building wonders, I certainly enjoy the bonus envoys this offers. The two free places for any work of art is a frosting on the cake. And I love the wonder music.
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Mont St. Michel - 4-3=1 - Compared to other wonder bonuses here, it's help is rather insignificant.
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 11
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

 

[Phoenix1595]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Mont St. Michel - ELIMINATED!!!! I don’t understand the martyr love... I like to spread my religion organically, not through relics.
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 11+1=12 (I get that it is situational, but as someone who plays Egypt/Nubia often, I love getting a stellar desert city going via Petra)
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19

 

[Chefofrats]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 28
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 15
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 12+1=13 I love this wonder. Not only does it transform one of your cities into a powerhouse, it also looks beautiful and references one of the most stunning man-made monuments on Earth.
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 19-3=16 While this is somewhat useful some of the time, it's the wonder I build least often of the ones left on this list, since naval combat matters so little in the current iteration of the game. On top of that, its placement adjacent to a coastal Industrial Zone is awkward, since usually inland IZs are optimal because of surrounding hills.

 

[BarbarianHunter]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29 (28+1) --- The most useful wonder in the game.
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 5
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 12 (15-3) --- Not a bad wonder if you are committed having a big navy. +1 movement is good if you are going to tangle with another civ with a big navy. Otherwise, your big navy will probably easily dispatch other smaller navies, in which case this wonder is of considerably less value than other units you might create (and later upgrade) with the production.
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[Leathaface]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña - 2 (5 - 3) Comes much too late IMO.
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 12
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 17 (16 + 1) I mainly use it for Scientific victories, which it is still handy good for. However as @BenitoChavez pointed out, it is useful for 3 outta 4 victories.
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[Zyxpsilon]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Estadio do Maracaña 0 (2 - 3) **Sadly, ELIMINATED! Even though such aminities influx is still relatively good for warmongers at that time.
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 12
Great Zimbabwe - 21
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18 (17+1) Same reasons as what was deleted by Moderator earlier -- major production boost.
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[Karmah]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 14 -3 = 11 something I simply never build
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 12
Great Zimbabwe - 21 +1 = 22 the city where I build it becomes stronger , my gold influx goes stronger. Deserved love
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[OneMoreTurnPerTile]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 5-3=2. Ok for a cultural victory, but it's pretty weak compared to the others remaining.
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 12
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 21+1=22. If it just gave the GS points, writing slots and 20% science bonus, it would still be among the best wonders. The two FREE techs make it top 3. This should be much higher than PP, Huey, or any of these other pretenders.
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basils Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[God of Kings]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 25
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Broadway - 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED Comes too late to do anything good, though decent for a cultural victory
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 12
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 19 + 1 = 20 Archaeologists as scouts + easy promotions for conquest, what's not to like?
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[The Highwayman]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 26 (25+1) Currently not being accurately represented in the scoring. This is a game changer, and still in the company of some lesser wonders.
Bolshoi Theatre - 17
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 9 (12-3) +1 movement for naval units is pretty weak compared to the survivors in this competition. GAs are by far the worst great people. The gold is negligible considering the hammer investment. If I don't see you again Lighthouse, it's been real.
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[Amrunril]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 26
Bolshoi Theatre - 14 (17 - 3) I have a hard time seeing who this wonder would be useful to. For a non culture player, it's a huge amount of production to put into a culture wonder. For a culture player, the free civics aren't really needed (most tourism sources generate plenty of culture), and the great person/great work side of the wonder has all the limitations of Broadway and Hermitage.
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 10 (9 + 1) Bonus movement is a major boost to combat effectiveness, especially for ranged units. More speed means a greater ability to focus fire and a greater probability of attacking first. It also means you can get your units where you need them faster, allowing you to do more with fewer units.
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 26
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[Jarms48]

Just read the updated tier list, surprised at some of the options. I thought the post-buffed Great Library would at least be higher in the bottom tier as it's great "insurance" in multiplayer, and against higher AI levels. Quick question about Chichen Itza does the additional culture yield convert to tourism after Flight? That would definitely elevate it's rating in my eyes.

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 26
Bolshoi Theatre - 14
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 7 (10 - 3) I build this sometimes, not for it's intended purpose mind you. The AI is still terrible at sea warfare. I use it to speed up my builders so I can move around my coastlines and improve all my water resources.
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27 (26 + 1) I actually really like this wonder, not as much as I did after the English were nerfed, but you can get a surprising amount of gold from this. Also having a pair of Iron Clad armadas in the Renaissance is pretty fun. Being able to use Sergei Korolev, Robert Goddard, or Wernher von Braun twice is incredibly powerful for anyone pursuing a science victory.
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 16

 

[Timothy001]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 23 (26-3) I love Big Ben, but so does the computer. In most recent games, I can never finish it.
Bolshoi Theatre - 14
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 7
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 17 (16+1) Love the double navy. Makes expensive naval choices half.