Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
To be quite honest, there's very little that a progressively-minded person can except "huh". Wait till the righties show up, they'll have a thing or two to say, I'm sure.
WTC Mosque Part Four!!!
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useless
Social Justice Rogue
There comes a point where even evidence is no longer enough. Certain people in this thread, at the end of the day, will still believe this is wrong. Those that oppose it with such strength and emotion, cannot be given a rational argument, for they go straight for emotion.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Yeah. But as you pointed out, it merely confirms what most of us already knew.
useless
Social Justice Rogue
Basically this, the more hardline opposers won't really take in any points from it, so no offense intended by not bringing it up. It merely vindicates our already strengthed posistion.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
At least I doubt anybody will try to argue the "victory mosque" "talking point" anymore. They won't want to be seen directly supporting the Taliban.
useless
Social Justice Rogue
First it was that the Imam had terrorist links, then it was the funding, but the same thing that pops up again is how offensive it is. Don't people have the right to be offended?
No. The point has been made multiple times. Conservatives simple prefer terrorism against Americans to permitting freedom and Constitutional rule to despised minorities.
It is rather unwise, I feel, to wave away America's long and sordid history of institutionalised bigotry as the work of a few bad apples.
I never said it was "the work of a few bad apples"
I never made any mention as to how numerous these types of people are
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Miss USA opposes Victory Mosque
Someone should check back with Miss USA and see if she now no longer cares at all.
useless
Social Justice Rogue
I'm not sure why they even ask Miss USA such questions.
Mr. Dictator
A Chain-Smoking Fox
Because they're always hilarious?
Ajidica
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Yeah, but here it is a major news magazine saying it rather than a bunch of internet posters.
useless
Social Justice Rogue
Again, like others have said. They will still ignore it.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
It seemed to be rather heavily implied.I never said it was "the work of a few bad apples"
I never made any mention as to how numerous these types of people are
bernie14
Filter Manipulator
ok....seriously....the taliban?...is anyone here naive enough to think that the taliban would not spin the story to fit which ever propaganda would favor them the most?.....if the mosque gets built "it is a victory mosque for islam"....if it doest get built "the evil americans r islamophobic"...
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
It appears you are right.
Ajidica
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So you are saying we should help the Taliban by showing intolerance rather than having their argument blow up in their face over our tolerance? They have been pushing the 'America is so intolerant' rhetoric in their arguments so much, it would be pretty bad for them if we allowed it. I can see the explanation now:
"I know we said America was an intolerant, Islamophobic society, but you know, they let a community center with Islamic ties be built two blocks from Ground Zero. Death to the intolerant americans?"
So, what do you want. Show the rest of the Worlds Muslims we are intolerant. Or gain the support of most the worlds Muslims and really piss off the ones who attacked us? I think the answer is pretty clear.
"I know we said America was an intolerant, Islamophobic society, but you know, they let a community center with Islamic ties be built two blocks from Ground Zero. Death to the intolerant americans?"
So, what do you want. Show the rest of the Worlds Muslims we are intolerant. Or gain the support of most the worlds Muslims and really piss off the ones who attacked us? I think the answer is pretty clear.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Has any Muslim actually used the term "victory mosque", or referred to the idea? I can't help but wonder where people've gotten this idea from.
