[RD] Yiannopoulos is Out

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Favorite whipping boy of CFC, Milo Yiannopoulos has resigned from the website Breitbart.
If you aren't sure what you are going to do now that Yiannopoulos wouldn't be on Breitbart, have no fear. He's promised to set up a new independent media venture and speaking tour. I'm sure this gay, conservative, child abuse survivor will ensure there is plenty of nonsense to keep people busy for years to come.
 
Sucks for him. Don't really want to say more than that because it seems any sort of support or empathy gets you labelled as a NAMBLA supporter in this situation so I think this is a nice scenario to head down to the pub for a pint and wait for the whole thing to blow over.
 
He also had his book deal pulled and a speech at CPAC was cancelled. I guess there is a limit to freedom of speech. And that limit is suggesting teenage boys can't be molested.
 
Lol I have more book deals than he does now

It's almost as though Milo's popularity with the hard right was never about free speech so much as it was about racist and sexist trolling.
 
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why the <snip> did anyone ever care about what this <snip> was saying

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why the <snip> did anyone ever care about what this <snip> was saying

Because certain people really cared about what he was saying, and he was encouraging those people to harass and do harm to people he didn't like on his behalf.
 
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Oh this thread's going to be great.

Where's the popcorn emoji when you need it.
 
Because certain people really cared about what he was saying, and he was encouraging those people to harass and do harm to people he didn't like on his behalf.
any nutjob can say racist things
why specifically this hack?
 
I mean, he's not a nazi so that doesn't apply
 
Note that punching him in the face isn't what brought him down. Letting him speak then using his own words against him is what did.

Except he said the words that caused his downfall last year. It's only because people like the Berkeley and UW students made such a stink about him that pressure was put on organizations like CPAC to find an excuse to drop him.
 
I mean, he's not a nazi so that doesn't apply

Shows how much I pay attention to either loon (Milo and Spencer). Though Milo never got punched, I don't doubt many (but not all) that want to punch a nazi would love to see Milo get punched as well. The argument for violent protest was that 'peaceful' means didn't work. Is there much of a step from a violent protest to punching someone in the face?

Except he said the words that caused his downfall last year. It's only because people like the Berkeley and UW students made such a stink about him that pressure was put on organizations like CPAC to find an excuse to drop him.

So not all peaceful options were used before the 'last option' of violent protest was used?
 
I think the argument for Milo being punched is more that he's a gobshite. Nothing political. Call it the Piers Morgan rule.
 
From the Berkeley riots thread:

Quoting one of those involved in the protests,

A Partial List.

A partial list of things people did to try to cancel Milo’s appearance at UC Berkeley before Wednesday:

~particularly following MY’s outing and sexual harassment of a trans student at UW Milwaukee (but also before), we talked with our communities about their thoughts on free speech versus harassment and realized many ppl supported the former but not the latter

~wrote op eds in high-profile news media about the differences between free speech, hate speech, and harassment

~met with many folks targeted by both MY and the Trump administration to hear their concerns and solutions to MY’s talk; many asked for us to begin urging for cancellation
*the above was all in November, immediately following the election of DT and the dramatic spike in hate crimes against the same groups MY targets*

~we developed a large-scale letter writing campaign to faculty and administration urging for the cancellation of MY on the grounds that his speeches have targeted and harassed students and created unsafe campus environments

~worked with members of the community who wanted to draft letters to UCB administration urging for cancellation (particularly trans and poc people)

~once the sale started, we urged friends to buy out all of the tickets so the auditorium would be empty (we later learned that a only fraction of MY tickets were made available for public sale, and that his camp is very familiar with this tactic and just lets more ppl in the day of)
*this was all in December*

~organized a mass call in campaign to the Chancellor and to President Napolitano urging for cancellation

~visited other schools that invited this speaker and saw how many white nationalists use these talks to build their movement and how violent these spaces can be

~faculty wrote a letter to administration urging for cancellation; they were doxxed on Breitbart for signing on and began receiving personal messages meant to silence and intimidate them

~faculty wrote an op ed about MY’s harassment and hate speech; some faculty received death threats for this

~submitted over 50 union grievances stating that the MY talk constitutes a hostile work environment under Article 20 of our contract, which protects against harassment and discrimination

~developed a toolkit that critically examines the history of free speech, pointing to its historical exclusions as well as limits outlined in the constitution, and how MY uses this argument to help build the white nationalist movement and to instruct people how to purge its others; some students who helped write this toolkit were doxxed and began receiving personal messages meant to silence and intimidate

~wrote numerous op eds in our school newspaper, writing for which some students opposed to MY’s visit received very chilling death threats

~consulted lawyers on the matter of free speech vs. harassment so we could better understand the legal framework

~after the near-death shooting of a Milo protester at UW Seattle, we reached out to local and state politicians to convince our administration that this talk was a threat to public safety

~held several large public meetings to discuss and debate the merits of allowing this speaker a platform vs. urging for cancellation on the grounds of certain harassment and likely violence; it was at this point that the Berkeley College Republicans began following some of us in attempts to intimidate us

~actually met several times with UCB administrators and read aloud death threats we’ve received, urging them to protect our right to free speech in the context of threats meant to chill us

~learned that undocumented students would be targeted by MY and that the UCB administration knew this and offered them no protection
*this was all in January*

This is, again, a partial list that only includes things I remember. I’ve seen many op eds shame protesters (esp. black bloc) and say, why didn’t you do x, y, z first? Believe me, if you can think of a tactic, we tried it. Next time someone shames us for not pursuing the polite route of asking nicely for the psychological and physical safety of us and our friends and loved ones to be honored, start reading this long list of things we actually did before Wednesday.

I’m fudging tired and glad that creeper wasn’t allowed anywhere near a UCB mic.


What we witnessed at Berkeley was the failure of the system to respond to the public, not the failure of the public to adhere to the system.

Somebody once said something about "the language of the unheard".

I can't say "they exhausted every option," because that goes into 'can't prove a negative' territory. But I think it can be safely said that they attempted enough nonviolent options to to satisfy what would be expected of due diligence.

And again. Milo was banned from Twitter nearly a year ago. None of his views were ever concealed. The "grand revelation" was made months ago and published publicly. It's the violence and anger that brought his movement to national attention, and it's the violence and anger that put pressure on CPAC et al. to drop him.
 
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Not sure which of the two things I find more interesting:

1) The reason he was dropped. The CPAC drew the line not at equating transgender people with sociopaths, or orchestrating racist abuse at a comedian; but of an edgelord comment made in poor taste that appeared to intentionally blur the lines and take advantage of the differences between UK and US age of consent. In other words, hate and racism? Fine. Vague comment about pedophilia? GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
2) Every picture I've seen of Milo has him in a different hairstyle; which vary between a camp Dracula and an extra in the porn version of the Hunger Games.

Assuming Milo goes down over this, hopefully next time we get another alt-right edgelord the tumbleristas leave that genie in the bottle and learn the #1 lesson in the internet: Don't. Feed. The. Troll.
 
Not sure which of the two things I find more interesting:

1) The reason he was dropped. The CPAC drew the line not at equating transgender people with sociopaths, or orchestrating racist abuse at a comedian; but of an edgelord comment made in poor taste that appeared to intentionally blur the lines and take advantage of the differences between UK and US age of consent. In other words, hate and racism? Fine. Vague comment about pedophilia? GET HIM OUT OF HERE.

Think it says something very specific about hard right sensibilities. They're willing to promote the foreign queer kid when he's doing amusing racist tricks and trolling the left, but that doesn't make him one of them. (It's pretty similar to how they find feminism and gay rights useful as a club to bash racial and cultural enemies but otherwise disdain and oppose them)

But at the end of the day, half of them think queer people are all pedophiles anyway, so the first hint of that just confirms it for them. Thus they turn on a bloke who is still an outsider, a foreign pervert, and owed no group loyalty.
 
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