YnAMP - Development thread Civ6

[agonistes]

Gedemon updated YnAMP - Yet (not) Another Maps Pack for Civ6 with a new update entry:

Beta .3

• Add brick623 Scandinavia city map for Giant
• Add brick623 Russia and Ukraine city map for Giant Earth
• Add brick623 Middle East city map for Giant Earth
• Add Moda and Stauffenberg North American city map for Giant Earth
• Add guidemwit South Asia city map for Giant Earth
• Add tomaltachpaulson Macedon & Persia TSL (and lot of small fixes)
• Add Largest Earth rework by Hormigas

• Add load order to update database for DLC compatibility (should fix wrong language used by DLC leaders)
• Prevent resources placed in exclusion region since the Australian Winter patch

• Add CityMap entries to TSL that doesn't fit the game's capitals names
• Add Uluru on Earth maps
• Add option to use specific Leaders TSL when available
• Add option to use alternate TSL when required and available
• Change max players to 62, max city states to 60 on all maps

• Activate Auto City Naming for Greatest Earth (W.I.P.)

Aaarggh! I love you man!

Gonna be the longest work day ever...

I didn't even turn my computer on this morning. Every second counts. Critical mistake.


edit: just to be clear... if we choose leader tsl, some tsl will be different, as capitals become leader aligned, not civ aligned

guess I need to see where Alexandria is

does this mean Catherine starts in Florence?

 

[Nigel_Tufnel2]

Rough starting location for Cyrus - plains with no water.

Spoiler :

The red circle is the TSL start. I didn't settle until t5, plains hill with plenty of protection from War Carts. Only one showed up with 2 Warriors when he DOW'd (Emperor). 3 Archers and Warrior took care of that measly threat. Took Uruk in about 6 turns with an additional Archer, as a healing War Cart inside kept raising the defense number, something like 33 near the end.

No Iron in sight. I have ended up NE of here on non-TSL games, will likely expand NE. There are a few good city spots, then crapola until you get to the forest.

I'm considering DOW'ing Saladin now, just to try the extra movement. I had assumed I'd fight Gil with Immortals, might have to try Gandhi and Arabia/Egypt instead. I don't play domination in any serious way. No idea where/when Smuggie Smugface will arrive (Alex).

Cyrus_Start_2

• Nigel_Tufnel2
• Mar 29, 2017

 

[agonistes]

Rough starting location for Cyrus - plains with no water.

Spoiler :

The red circle is the TSL start. I didn't settle until t5, plains hill with plenty of protection from War Carts. Only one showed up with 2 Warriors when he DOW'd (Emperor). 3 Archers and Warrior took care of that measly threat. Took Uruk in about 6 turns with an additional Archer, as a healing War Cart inside kept raising the defense number, something like 33 near the end.

No Iron in sight. I have ended up NE of here on non-TSL games, will likely expand NE. There are a few good city spots, then crapola until you get to the forest.

I'm considering DOW'ing Saladin now, just to try the extra movement. I had assumed I'd fight Gil with Immortals, might have to try Gandhi and Arabia/Egypt instead. I don't play domination in any serious way. No idea where/when Smuggie Smugface will arrive (Alex).

Cyrus_Start_2

• Nigel_Tufnel2
• Mar 29, 2017

Ooh, rough start. Thanks for sharing. First thing I do when I get home us test all the new starts.

You played that exactly as I would have - where you settled I mean. No Kabul?

I had thought Cyrus' movement buff a so-so attribute. Its not. It is both hyper powerful and hyper fun. Great for catching up to fleeing settlers too.

edit: for anyone who has not experienced the speed boost, having it used on you in a mp game will be a shock. And remember... you can dow on someone else to use it on the person you are currently fighting. But its not applied by cs dowing.

edit 2: although, the original start has decent early production.

 

[Nigel_Tufnel2]

You played that exactly as I would have - where you settled I mean. No Kabul?.

I always have weird CS stuff when using GEM. I have done a lot of non-TSL games - last one I spawned in the forest N of here, and hadn't met a single CS exploring 3/4 of Asia. Another game I spawned alone in central USA, and met like 7 CS in the first dozen turns, LOL.

On this game I have neither CS mods enabled, force TSL for AI (CS and civs, not me), and I bumped the CS up about 10. Maybe that's what does it, I always boost the CS slider.

[edit] I found out the movement boost doesn't take effect until the NEXT turn, whoops! I am hoping to slam out some Scouts quick!

 

[MaximusPlatypus]

Rough starting location for Cyrus - plains with no water.

Spoiler :

The red circle is the TSL start. I didn't settle until t5, plains hill with plenty of protection from War Carts. Only one showed up with 2 Warriors when he DOW'd (Emperor). 3 Archers and Warrior took care of that measly threat. Took Uruk in about 6 turns with an additional Archer, as a healing War Cart inside kept raising the defense number, something like 33 near the end.

No Iron in sight. I have ended up NE of here on non-TSL games, will likely expand NE. There are a few good city spots, then crapola until you get to the forest.

I'm considering DOW'ing Saladin now, just to try the extra movement. I had assumed I'd fight Gil with Immortals, might have to try Gandhi and Arabia/Egypt instead. I don't play domination in any serious way. No idea where/when Smuggie Smugface will arrive (Alex).

Cyrus_Start_2

• Nigel_Tufnel2
• Mar 29, 2017

Wasn't The Persia start in past games down by where Sparda is? Although, come to think of it, that might be Persepolis which was Darius' capital.

 

[agonistes]

Hmmm, hadn't considered boosted scouts. Want to try.

Any chance u have screenies of Alex, Mecca, and Alexandria starts?

With the new options, I want Cleo in the delta.

 

[Nigel_Tufnel2]

Sal's Cairo has Walls up by t61, and is in the regular spot (E side of Red Sea). I left the default boxes checked regarding Gedemon's new Alternate Starts, and I assume Cleo's start is the same (I see the edge of her border). This is my first game with new Patch/Civs.

 

[SimonB1er]

Ok newbie question :

How do I set up a game to be the more hiatorical possible, tsl, the most civ and the most city states on the biggest map size?

Would a nvdia gtx 950 run it?

Thanks

 

[agonistes]

Ok newbie question :

How do I set up a game to be the more hiatorical possible, tsl, the most civ and the most city states on the biggest map size?

Would a nvdia gtx 950 run it?

Thanks

I dont think ludicrous is for you. But giant is just dandy. May want to turn barbs off. Use all tsl, import everything, use exclusiin zones. I disable naming cause it creates oddities. Turn off goodie huts too - unless u want tech boosts. I would use Quo's expansionist trait mod too - makes everyone expand more.

Personally, I don't play with victory conditions or a turn limit. I use marathin speed, and a mod that doubles tech and civic cost in top of that, and one that reduces eurekas and inspirations.

Finally, I use mods to control China's Great Wall spam and making religious units respect borders.

Then adjust CS slider to max. Should be good to go.

 

[Stooo]

Am i meant to be downloading this mod from the steam workshop from now on or still from here? cause i d/l it from here and all i have is the map folder, no dover fix or faster road move etc. if someone can clear that up that would be great.
lastly i play on GEM and i pick the 60 city states option but it doesnt seem to be working it doesnt load in anything close to that amount, is that right? or is this option for another map mode?

 

[Stooo]

So using this forum mod pack, i noticed the resources have been changed on GEM giant map, theres no longer the large area of grain/wheat south of russia like the previous version; and other areas have been changed too. But what i find especially hilarious is that there seems to only be one source of iron in the whole of europe, and one only in africa.
Im all for making the game hard but that takes the biscuit.

 

[agonistes]

That can't be right. You imported the resources, yes? Added strategic?

Without that wheat, I lose my +26 gold trade routes.

 

[Giffica]

It appears resources were broken. Not getting any deposits on Europe either. Spawned as Persia with 1 sheep in a 20 tile zone. And Alexander with 1 citrus and a wheet. That's it. Potentially there was Iron and other hidden resources, but before this patch, Pericles's Spawn in the same spot as Alex's current spot used to have at minimum 15 resources for your starting city. Seems broken.


Also, this should go in the TSL thread, but Persia's start is Tabriz, which is definitely not even 1 of Persia's 5 classical capitals (Parsargadae, Babylon, Persepolis, Susa, Ecbataca). This really throws off Persia's balance as not only is the region sparse with no decent start (compared to Egypt, Babylon, and the Greeks, their contemporaries), but there is also no fresh water, which is beyond absurd to assume the Persian capital wasn't on a fresh water source. It also throws Persia, at least on the europe map, basically in the middle of no where, near no coast, to far from any city states, other civs, etc. It just makes their start bad on europe, coupled with the lack of ruins doesn't help either. Something to consider.

Oh and Alexander's capital is not Pella. It's Kalkis.

 

[Stooo]

Yep, i deleted this forum modpack downloaded the steam one started as Australia instead of Alexander and its the same there. about 12 iron on the whole map. and only one node in europe. as for the grain still not appearing.

 

[agonistes]

Oh jeez.

On another topic, as Cleo the saving grace for that start position is picking up the +4 shields from the two military cs's. Not a problem for the human. Might help the AI now that Kongo is lower. No experience with her delta start.

Are there not meant to be fish north of the snowline in Russia? Why do you guys hate Russia so much. Every game - feed the world. Feed the world. I've taken to calling the Russian holy district 'viagra.'

Someone may want to take a critical pass looking at resource balance at starting positions. Boxed in or island civs should get a bonus. Nobody should be as toothless as Cleo.

Compare Paris and Athens.

Cliffs of Dover should get at least 3 food to start, and maybe +1 more culture or gold. Its a 2 tile island wonder at a capital location... pretty much just extra coast atm. London does not need more coast. You are better off moving up and settling right on the stone if you are Victoria. If it were me, and I love big capitals, I would give cliffs 4/2/2. Too bad you can't boost wonder output by tech.

 

[agonistes]

Yep, i deleted this forum modpack downloaded the steam one started as Australia instead of Alexander and its the same there. about 12 iron on the whole map. and only one node in europe. as for the grain still not appearing.
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That's weird. Citrus??? Really weird. Give me spices in a tundra forested hill, and some dyes, I won't complain. Lol. I think Russia has 4 hills. 2 are for wonders, 1 has (had) iron. The last isn't on a river. Russia is basically beeline lumbermills.

It looks like the imports are broken and its getting set to scarce.

 

[Giffica]

Oh Macedon also isn't using Greek civ names. This just broke this game for me lmao. Restart time. http://imgur.com/a/RApso


Side note, the default really should not be istanbul. Don't know who decided Instanbul made more sense than either Byzantion or Constantinople. Really should be Byzantion, at least for all the pre-Roman greek civs. But DEFINITELY not Istanbul. Byz/Constan for a solid 2000 years, Istanbul for 550.

 

[Gedemon]

Looking at the bug with the import resource option, seems the the ResourcesValidation() function is a bit overzealous in that case...

 

[agonistes]

I once had a guy grief me because I had Istanbul in the wrong place in my TSL map on Marla Singer's version for III... while having Rome and Byzantine empire in game too.

No worries Ged, know you are plugging away. Everyone appreciates it.

 

[MaximusPlatypus]

I always play Steam workshop version, Greatest Earth map and use the in game resource generator .Should this cause issues with that method?