You are a Starship Trooper

Refer to the questions in the post and answer

  • Question 1: Yes, I would volunteer

    Votes: 19 36.5%
  • Question 1: No, I would not volunteer (why?)

    Votes: 19 36.5%
  • Question 2: Yes, I would cheer on the person

    Votes: 24 46.2%
  • Question 2: No, I would not cheer on the person (why?)

    Votes: 9 17.3%
  • It's smarter to blow up the hatchery instead.

    Votes: 21 40.4%

  • Total voters
    52

stratego

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Let's pretend a situation where we live in a world similar to the one in Starship Trooper where human beings are in a fight against an alien race. Scientists think that you can significantly cripple the aliens ability to fight if you get into the aliens lair and blow up a brain bug. You will need to sacrifice you life to do this.
Two Questions:
1) Would you volunteer to do this?
2) If you're not selected to do this, would you cheer on the person that is selected?
 
1) No. I like my appearence the way it is, thanks.
2) It depends on what has happened in the war thus far.
 
1) Yes I'd volunteer, I won't sit back and benefit from someone else's death.
2) For the same reasons, I would not cheer them on if someone else were chosen. I would do everything in my power to help them succeed, since if they're going to die anyway, I wouldn't want it to be futile. (Plus, I might be able to conk them out and take their place.)

But hitting the hatchery might be smarter.
 
Note, in that story, they only become citizens through serving the government. There is an underlying political message in the story that most people miss.
 
no, and no. killing the brain bug is pointless. the quasi-fascist regime needs constant war to stay in power. if they someday defeat the bugs there will just magically appear a new enemy.
 
Thing is, you don't need ground forces to kill those bugs. Just bombard the plannet from orbit, iradiate it, burn off the atmosphere, we're destroying Earth without even trying, so how hard can it be to make some other plannet a barren wasteland?
 
stratego said:
Let's pretend a situation where we live in a world similar to the one in Starship Trooper where human beings are in a fight against an alien race. Scientists think that you can significantly cripple the aliens ability to fight if you get into the aliens lair and blow up a brain bug. You will need to sacrifice you life to do this.
Two Questions:
1) Would you volunteer to do this?
2) If you're not selected to do this, would you cheer on the person that is selected?

The book, or the film?
 
stormbind said:
Note, in that story, they only become citizens through serving the government. There is an underlying political message in the story that most people miss.
I don't know how other people saw it, but I felt the whole movie was poking fun at us and our attitude towards war.
 
I have not seen Starship Troopers. If I thought I was more capable of completing the mission successfully than others I would volunteer.
 
blindside said:
I don't know how other people saw it, but I felt the whole movie was poking fun at us and our attitude towards war.
Gotta read the book to get the full story ;)
 
I say no and no.

Why?

Because in startship troopers the government is fascistic and nasty and generally anti-what i believe in. And in the book it's even darker, with a whole other alien race (which reminds me, I really want to read the book again!) that the humans are bruatalising.
 
stormbind said:
Gotta read the book to get the full story ;)

Yes, it is, along with Heinlein, one of the most right-wing, apologetic, patriotic books I have read. It promotes the use of guns, violence, the death penalty (even for the mentally ill), pride in your army, the army in general (even for unfit people), obeying every order to the letter, and the importance of the army and heirarchy.
 
nonconformist said:
Yes, it is, along with Heinlein, one of the most right-wing, apologetic, patriotic books I have read. It promotes the use of guns, violence, the death penalty (even for the mentally ill), pride in your army, the army in general (even for unfit people), obeying every order to the letter, and the importance of the army and heirarchy.
And that's why I couldn't answer the poll properly. I would sooner be a terrorist fighting to topple that evil government, than serve in their distracting war; which is probably a conspiracy anyway :mischief:
 
stormbind said:
which is probably a conspiracy anyway :mischief:
It's so obvious now: there was no Meteor, It was realy a bomb! They must have executed everyone in the City and confiscated all satalite footage of the event! The truth is out there, FIGHT THE POWER!!!
 
stormbind said:
And that's why I couldn't answer the poll properly. I would sooner be a terrorist fighting to topple that evil government, than serve in their distracting war; which is probably a conspiracy anyway :mischief:

Yeah, apart from the whole bugs firing stuff at earth thing.
 
Anyone seen ST2? Crappy movie, but that bit at the end was one of my favourite movie moments. "Hope you grow up fast...we need more meat for the grinder.":)
 
I don't volunteer to anything.

No I wouldn't cheer for anyone who goes. Stupidity should not be encouraged.
 
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