15 years old teenager commits suicide after excessive on- and offline bullying
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holy king
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yeah, it's also called being a non-dissocial human being.
King Kalmah
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Bullying is something that should be a jailable offense...
I'm not joking,been molested and abused by bullies all my life,but this poor girl not only felt her own life was in danger,but the lives of her family members...
I'm not going into details,but when someone says "Do this or I will come to 333 Maple st. and kill you're parents"...you usually submit to the person making the demands due to fear(especially at a younger age when you are weaker emotionally/physically)
She was alone on the computer and she felt attractive to a stranger.She posted a picture of herself topless online(thousands of girls have made this mistake),but it got worse because he was not only a stalker,but obviously someone close in her life(teacher,employer,social figure) and knew everything about the girl.She could have notify her parents or facebook about what was going on,but the psycho had his hooks in her pretty deep.Knew her whereabouts during the day and I guess probably was a neighbor or something...
my only question is where were her parents in all this?
They should have gotten involved the moment they noticed a change in her behavior.... EDIT(they moved her from school to school....)
Also to the people who don't care about bullies...let me guess you were probably laughing at us when the bully was doing his/her "job"...right?
routing out the weak....
I'm not joking,been molested and abused by bullies all my life,but this poor girl not only felt her own life was in danger,but the lives of her family members...
I'm not going into details,but when someone says "Do this or I will come to 333 Maple st. and kill you're parents"...you usually submit to the person making the demands due to fear(especially at a younger age when you are weaker emotionally/physically)
She was alone on the computer and she felt attractive to a stranger.She posted a picture of herself topless online(thousands of girls have made this mistake),but it got worse because he was not only a stalker,but obviously someone close in her life(teacher,employer,social figure) and knew everything about the girl.She could have notify her parents or facebook about what was going on,but the psycho had his hooks in her pretty deep.Knew her whereabouts during the day and I guess probably was a neighbor or something...
my only question is where were her parents in all this?
Also to the people who don't care about bullies...let me guess you were probably laughing at us when the bully was doing his/her "job"...right?
routing out the weak....
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Because a world inhabited by compassionate people is a nicer place to live?
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You may or may not care and it's totally up to you but to say she didn't care enough is quite a harsh thing to say. She did care enough to do something (swapping schools) about the situation but teenagers don't necessarily chose the best of options (alcohol & drugs) especially under social pressure. This, however, is not an indication of lack of self respect but an inability to control one's own life. The suicide didn't happen because she didn't care enough for herself but because she cared too much about others' twisted views.
How much 'blame' can be put on the parents & school is a hard to say but I'd rather blame the society as a whole - it failed miserably.
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Not to contradict you, but this isn't bullying, but straight up extortion.
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Yeah, I know a guy who's doing time for sexually assaulting children, and the majority of his sentence was for extortion charges. Almost the exact same situation as well: he got girls to send him revealing photos, then threatened to send them to their parents or friends if they wouldn't do more with him.
If we know who the guy that did that to Amanda Todd, and he's in a jurisdiction we can get to him, then he should absolutely be brought up on extortion charges.
If we know who the guy that did that to Amanda Todd, and he's in a jurisdiction we can get to him, then he should absolutely be brought up on extortion charges.
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I think this is called "conditioning". I've heard it said about convicts getting prison guards to do them a favour, and then blackmailing them with the same favour into doing more for them. An interesting technique.
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This is the only thing that gives me pause. Is it beyond the grasp of Anonymous to set up an elaborate trap to destroy someone's life?
Obviously if this really happened it's awful, but I had the exact same thought.
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In a word, no.
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That's exactly why vigilante justice should never be tolerated. Without any due process involved the convictions will very often be false (as this example proves) and there is no room for witnesses or testimony. I find it unacceptable that the author advocates for his system of "online anti-bullying alliances".
Grendeldef
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The story and it's ramifications are now news here in Finland as well. YLE reported the incident in very general way on it's website few hours ago.
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I just read the background behind this whole incident, and honestly, I've lost respect for the whole ordeal.
I also forgot that I have psychological issues much worse than hers and I'm not dead right now.
Yes, it's a sad story, but apparently bullying had much less to do with her suicide than what was said in the media.
I also forgot that I have psychological issues much worse than hers and I'm not dead right now.
Yes, it's a sad story, but apparently bullying had much less to do with her suicide than what was said in the media.
Depends how tech-savvy he was.
PlutonianEmpire
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In that case then, what IS the bigger factor in her suicide, if bullying had less to do with it than the media portrayed?
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Get traumatized due to poor choices and naive youthfulness (and craving for unhealthy attention.) Start new life. Enter new school. Join cheerleading squad, meet a few people. Apparently still have an unhealthy need for attention (I mean, didn't she learn after the boob ordeal?); decide to shag one of your friends' boyfriends. Friends get pissed at you, the girl with the boyfriend gets real mad and tries to beat you up. Understandable, wrong, not bullying. Get zoned out and feel alone obviously, which doesn't mix with your still unhealthy need for attention. Mix that in with bullying stalker, of course, but... Well, then she posted a video for attention...
Look, if she hadn't made these poor decisions based upon her cravings for unhealthy attention, she might actually have gotten support from her friends rather than the problems that erupted instead. Particularly boinking your friend's boyfriend in an established clique of cheerleaders isn't going to fix your world even though you might temporarily feel better about yourself. I'm not going to talk about flashing people online.
Resisting bullying against you is about managing your resources, and her of doing it was to draw unhealthy temporary attention towards her. Which she did in the first place with the flashing. Remove the bullying part and you have a girl feeling a need to draw unhealthy temporary attention towards her. It's still unhealthy, it'll also often lead to social isolation. Her resources should be in her parents and friends at the very least. Her friends, she screwed them up herselves, her parents... Well, I think that it's there it went wrong, if I had to make a personal guess on the root of her attention issues.
She's a good example for stopping cyberbullying before she moved. After that, I simply don't think her parents did a good enough job of having her feel comfortable and secure. edit: and if they couldn't have done that, I'm not sure they had done a good enough job to establish themselves as a source of trust and security in the first place.
Her attention issues would be the central problem. Not something that's necessarily her fault, but it's modifiable behavior which can be circumvented and changed with subsidized programs.
Don't get me wrong, I dislike bullying, and if she was never bullied, she had probably still been alive. So stop bullying etc. I do, however, still think that she would still have been really miserable as she apparently did not cope well with distinguishing good attention from bad attention, leading to some really bad choices. And helping her do that through any means would be governmental resources better spent. If anything, she would not have been bullied to begin with, never showing her tats.
Look, if she hadn't made these poor decisions based upon her cravings for unhealthy attention, she might actually have gotten support from her friends rather than the problems that erupted instead. Particularly boinking your friend's boyfriend in an established clique of cheerleaders isn't going to fix your world even though you might temporarily feel better about yourself. I'm not going to talk about flashing people online.
Resisting bullying against you is about managing your resources, and her of doing it was to draw unhealthy temporary attention towards her. Which she did in the first place with the flashing. Remove the bullying part and you have a girl feeling a need to draw unhealthy temporary attention towards her. It's still unhealthy, it'll also often lead to social isolation. Her resources should be in her parents and friends at the very least. Her friends, she screwed them up herselves, her parents... Well, I think that it's there it went wrong, if I had to make a personal guess on the root of her attention issues.
She's a good example for stopping cyberbullying before she moved. After that, I simply don't think her parents did a good enough job of having her feel comfortable and secure. edit: and if they couldn't have done that, I'm not sure they had done a good enough job to establish themselves as a source of trust and security in the first place.
Her attention issues would be the central problem. Not something that's necessarily her fault, but it's modifiable behavior which can be circumvented and changed with subsidized programs.
Don't get me wrong, I dislike bullying, and if she was never bullied, she had probably still been alive. So stop bullying etc. I do, however, still think that she would still have been really miserable as she apparently did not cope well with distinguishing good attention from bad attention, leading to some really bad choices. And helping her do that through any means would be governmental resources better spent. If anything, she would not have been bullied to begin with, never showing her tats.
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