2012 Apocalypse Coming Up

[ace99]

The Maya were considerate enough to convert their dating system to GMT and kind enough to take into account modern time zones.

 

[Joecoolyo]

It's the end of the world as we know it

and I feel fine

Mostly because I have full faith in Dikembe Mutombo.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Eh, I could be wrong but I very much doubt the Mayans used Greenwich Mean Time as I don't think they knew of the existence of Greenwich.

A good point. I believe we should be using the moment when the sun rises in the eastern horizon in Chichen Itza, crossing certain ancient Mayan constellations, because as we all know the Mayan pyramids were built by spacefaring aliens.

 

[dutchfire]

You know how they have these airplanes that fly around the world on New Years Day, so that people can celebrate New Year several times? I wonder if they will do the same thing for the end of the world.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

For those who believe that this is the end...

Spoiler :

[timer=12/21/2012 0:00 AM UTC;00:00][/timer]

Assuming that the beginning of the end will start right on the first minute of 21/12/2012 (UTC+00:00).

Fantastic. I get to die right at dinner time at Thursday evening.

One source I saw said 06:00:00 AM UTC, or midnight my time.

Minnesota time is CST, which is UTC-06:00.

Either way, I get to die on Thursday.

 

[Borachio]

Link to video.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

I'm staying out of this apocalypse, too busy at the moment.

Let me know when next year's apocalypse happens.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

A good point. I believe we should be using the moment when the sun rises in the eastern horizon in Chichen Itza, crossing certain ancient Mayan constellations, because as we all know the Mayan pyramids were built by spacefaring aliens.

Don't forget about precession.

Unless, of course, they figured out how to take that into account.

 

[Gucumatz]

Being half Maya myself, I plan on having some fun that day pranking people. Thinking of going back to my old high school and acting like one of those old hobos you see in movies preaching the end of the world with an asterik on a sign* [*Not really, not my fault you white guys can't translate and read our damn prophecies and beliefs correctly]

 

[cybrxkhan]

Being half Maya myself

Just wondering, and not to be nosy or anything, what do your Mayan friends and relatives (and those ho live in Mexico) make of all this apocalypto business? I rarely hear what the actual darn Mayans think about this, because most people just assume they're an ancient dead culture.

 

[ace99]

Don't talk to him! He's an alien agent scoping out Earth for an invasion!

 

[Gucumatz]

Just wondering, and not to be nosy or anything, what do your Mayan friends and relatives (and those ho live in Mexico) make of all this apocalypto business? I rarely hear what the actual darn Mayans think about this, because most people just assume they're an ancient dead culture.

That half of my family live in Guatemala, not Mexico. And to be honest - most of them don't care or really are that aware of it. We are more aware here in the US than they are of a "chaos or apocalyptic crap". My grandparents still speak Kaqchikel and they are familiar with some folktales that have been passed over the generations - but I can assure you, the Maya who are left aren't doomsday obssessed folk lol.

Our traditions and culture actually argue that we never believed in Apocalypse or anything of that sort, we believed in stages of the earth/changes. Cycles that would repeat to a degree, but never destruction of the earth or an apocalypse.
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The West just loves to think about the apocalypse, and pushes that desire/fear on any other culture they can find that will suit their theories

 

[NetGear]

less than a week left and its kinda quiet. I was hoping more loonies and tinfoilers talking about it IRL. There's less hype about the date as it approaches it seems. Or perhaps its due to the chatter about school shooting drowning out virtually everything else atm? eh

 

[Gucumatz]

Also a couple of other things I am practically obligated to say...

When talking about the Maya, its "Maya" not "Mayan"; Mayan is for describing a building/trait of culture
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There are plenty of Maya still alive -
- The last major Maya city state fell to the Spanish only in the late 1600s - Flores/Tayasal.

- The only unconquered people in North America are one of the Maya tribes, the Lacadon - who have played a significant role in the drug trade recently on the Mexico/Guatemala border

- We did not predict an end of the world, only cycles

- This is only the end of the 13th Baktun... My ancestors counted using groups of 20. The end of a piktun is the 20th Baktun and would be more significant than the 13th Baktun.

- There is not "one calender" - We had 3 "calenders" with different significance for each day

- Maya culture, literature, and science were not completely wiped out. There are officially only 4 readable codices out there. While the majority of the scientific echelon was indeed wiped out by disease, the Spanish, and subsequent rule - some knowledge was carried out and preserved by various clans. Thats all I will say about that

 

[cybrxkhan]

@Gucumatz: Interesting information, certainly. As a student of history, I do know at the least that much of the Maya stuff is silly BS, but I think it's always best to hear it from someone who actually, well, comes from such a culture or at least is very familiar with it.

That said...

This is only the end of the 13th Baktun... My ancestors counted using groups of 20. The end of a piktun is the 20th Baktun and would be more significant than the 13th Baktun.

So you're saying the actual apolcaypse would be the 20th Baktun? When's that?

 

[Gucumatz]

Not for another 2,000 years about

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That being said, the 13th Baktun would have been incredibly sacred - but probably not as much as the 20th would have been.

 

[Glassfan]

But hey, the good news! What with the Mayan end-of-the-world-thingy, we don't have to worry about the fiscal cliff!

 

[Takhisis]

Being half Maya myself, I plan on having some fun that day pranking people. Thinking of going back to my old high school and acting like one of those old hobos you see in movies preaching the end of the world with an asterik on a sign* [*Not really, not my fault you white guys can't translate and read our damn prophecies and beliefs correctly]

You could just start teaching us the language of the Maya. I'd be happy to teach you other things in return (besides the love of cats).

Don't talk to him! He's an alien agent scoping out Earth for an invasion!

Agent ace99, you will ignore this. You and those Lone Gunmen friends of yours have their hours counted.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Not for another 2,000 years about

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That being said, the 13th Baktun would have been incredibly sacred - but probably not as much as the 20th would have been.

Ah, I guess I'll leave my great-great-great-great-great-great...[insert a few more greats]-grandkids to deal with the real apocalypse.

I'm starting to think the 2012 thing is just a conspiracy some Maya-freemasonic-illuminati cult is doing to keep us unaware of the real apocalypse.

 

[Archbob]

It's the end of the world as we know it

and I feel fine

Mostly because I have full faith in Dikembe Mutombo.

yeah, I saw his video, he's our salvation.